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Willravel · 07-17-2006, 08:21 AM

I don't know what Israel should have done in response to this latest assault, but I know what they should not have done. Any organization, nation or entity that doesn't place value on innocent life is on my shit list. It's really that simple. Hezbollah is on my shit list. Israel is on my shit list. Several Palestinian organizations including Hamas are on my shit list. I am well aware of the 'nature of war', but that sure as hell doesn't mean that I woulnd't do anything to end war (or, removing the double negative, I would do anything to end war). I don't like the idea of 'accepting' that war is simply a part of life and allowing it to continue. That's simply not good enough, and the world isn't going to get any better unless we change our way of thinking. My anti-war stance has always included Israel, Palestine, Syria, Iran, Iraq, and slews of others, none the least of which is my own country. If you want to call be anti-Israeli, I can't stop you, but you'll have to call me anti-pretty much everyone, too. The problem is that when threads like this one pop up, they are very much one sided against the enemies of Israel. Israel is not a saint. They do wrong. They make mistakes like everyone else. They get involved in military posturing. They hurt people who don't deserve to be hurt (case in point this thread). Yes, Israel sent leaflets that said something like "stay away from Hezbollah locations", but how many Lebanese know where those places are? What does that really mean besides, "Run and hit, we're going to destroy your home"? Also, Israeli aircraft fired missiles at one of Hezbollah's radio stations, but hit a nearby apartment building instead. Oops! Casualties of war, I guess. It's not simplistic to show compassion for the people in that apartment, or people at an airport, or people on bridges. It's reasonable to feel sympathy for innocent people who are in danger, being injured, or killed. I DO hope that the Israeli soldiers are allowed to go free. They never should have been kidnapped, and Hezbollah should be destroyed. Doesn't that kinda go without saying, though?

I suspect that Hezbollah was simply expecting a prisoner exchange, a la the January 29, 2004 prisoner exchange overseen by Germany. Stupid move.

07-17-2006, 08:21 AM	#140 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	I don't know what Israel should have done in response to this latest assault, but I know what they should not have done. Any organization, nation or entity that doesn't place value on innocent life is on my shit list. It's really that simple. Hezbollah is on my shit list. Israel is on my shit list. Several Palestinian organizations including Hamas are on my shit list. I am well aware of the 'nature of war', but that sure as hell doesn't mean that I woulnd't do anything to end war (or, removing the double negative, I would do anything to end war). I don't like the idea of 'accepting' that war is simply a part of life and allowing it to continue. That's simply not good enough, and the world isn't going to get any better unless we change our way of thinking. My anti-war stance has always included Israel, Palestine, Syria, Iran, Iraq, and slews of others, none the least of which is my own country. If you want to call be anti-Israeli, I can't stop you, but you'll have to call me anti-pretty much everyone, too. The problem is that when threads like this one pop up, they are very much one sided against the enemies of Israel. Israel is not a saint. They do wrong. They make mistakes like everyone else. They get involved in military posturing. They hurt people who don't deserve to be hurt (case in point this thread). Yes, Israel sent leaflets that said something like "stay away from Hezbollah locations", but how many Lebanese know where those places are? What does that really mean besides, "Run and hit, we're going to destroy your home"? Also, Israeli aircraft fired missiles at one of Hezbollah's radio stations, but hit a nearby apartment building instead. Oops! Casualties of war, I guess. It's not simplistic to show compassion for the people in that apartment, or people at an airport, or people on bridges. It's reasonable to feel sympathy for innocent people who are in danger, being injured, or killed. I DO hope that the Israeli soldiers are allowed to go free. They never should have been kidnapped, and Hezbollah should be destroyed. Doesn't that kinda go without saying, though? I suspect that Hezbollah was simply expecting a prisoner exchange, a la the January 29, 2004 prisoner exchange overseen by Germany. Stupid move.