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Old 07-16-2006, 09:07 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by willravel
Yes, there is a HUGE difference. That's my point. State sponsored terrorism is quite a bit different than terrorism carried out by an independant organization. Hezbollah operates in Lebanon, but not on behalf of them. The citizens who died in the bombings were not singing the praises of the Hezbollah. Israel, the state, is attacking Lebanon, the state. That's war. It's disproportinate, and it's attacking the wrong people. It's like needing to amputate a toe, so the doctor cuts off your leg. Overkill.
If you, the government, place members of Hezbollah into a state of political power, then you, the government, are sponsoring any actitivities that Hezbollah might carry out. If the Hezbollah in Lebanon continue to attack Israel, then under any other circumstances, this would be considered an act of war by Lebanon against Israel.

So explain to me who Israel should be attacking? They should be attacking the country in which the attacks came from and the country in which Hezbollah has clear political power.

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The government? Sure. Some poor guy trying to get on a plane? Nope. Israel targeted civilians in order to terrorize the Lebanese populace. It's a classic Israeli tactic.
That's not correct. The Israelis are not trying to terrorize the Lebanese people. They are, however, trying to weaken Hezbollah by destroying bridges, roads and any other means which can be used to transport supplies to other members of Hezbollah.

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Name one governmental body in the history of the world that isn't hypocritical. I think that Lebanon has improved by leaps and bounds from where it was even 5 years ago. Hezbollah activity is down, not up. Slowly Lebanon is weeding out radicals. The PLO is gone now. The Syrians and Iranians commanding and influencing the Hezbollah are next.
Just because other government have been hypocritical doesn't give the Lebanese government the go-ahead to be hypocritical as well.

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Okay, I get it 14 out of 128. Do you know how many Hazbollah sympathizers and members were in the government 10 years ago? Again, we are seeing improvement. Yes, we should still do everything we can to stop Hezbaollah from carrying out attacks. That doesn't mean attacking innocent civilians and committing an act of war against a neighbor.
We're not speaking of ten years ago. We're speaking of right now. If Hezbollah in Lebanon continuously shot rockets into, say, the United States (Or any other country for that matter), would not this be considered an act of war? If this happened the United States would probably spare no expense in bombing the holy hell out of Lebanon, with probably very little resistance from the public. Therefore, I really can't understand how Israel is wrong in invading Lebanon.

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Lebanese citizens do not deserve to be bombed for things that they have not done and probably don't condone. They are by deffinition innocent. Most of them want to live in peace with Israel.

Are the Lebanese to be responsible for all the wrong doings of people residing in their country? Do they really deserve death for that?
Here's your problem; If you willingly vote a terrorist organization into your countries parliament, then you are just as much at fault for their actions are they are for their actions.

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I have to admit to being VERY surprised at the responses about these attacks. I know people like to side with Israel, but I can't see how this is excusable in any way.
Hezbollah holds political power in Lebanon.
Hezbollah in Lebanon continues to attack Israel.

So, given those two circumstances, who should Israel attack?
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