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Originally Posted by ktspktsp
Nirvana, thank you for your thoughts.
dlishsguy, thank you for your prayers, I'm thinking about your relatives too.
Cyn, indeed, Hezbollah does NOT have 100% support in Lebanon, far from it. In fact, I've always hated them.
I don't agree with this though:
You are assuming the whole of Lebanon want the "good" services of Hezbollah. That's wrong.
Hezbollah is not something that Lebanon has been able to control, because of its weak government, divided population, and the strong foreign backing of Hezbollah. This does not make it OK for Israel to use collective punishment on the Lebanese instead of just targeting Hezbollah. If a new John Gotti type re-emerged in parts of NY and provided some social services to some people, along with his criminal actions, should your house (assuming that you don't back him) be a legitimate bombing target? Should the NYC airports and bridges be bombed? No.
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How can you compare Gotti, to a terrorist organization that has 2 of its members in the cabinet of the government (we will not get in to all the other government positions that they are in as well)!! I am very saddened for the innocent people involved, but at some point a country has a right to defend its borders. And the retaliation strikes that have been done so far have obviously not swayed the government in Lebanon to remove these terrorists from their country. Nor has it swayed Hezbollah to stop attacking Israel.
If your country has a terrorist organization that is a part of your government, who runs large segments of your country, then at some point it is going to come back to haunt the country. I am saddened for the civilians, but that does not mean that Israel has to worry about daily rocket attacks, suicide bombers, etc... At some point Israel as a neighboring country, has to say that this is war, and sadly in war innocents are hurt. And attacking military compounds, kidnapping soldiers, and demanding the release of hundreds of prisoners, pushed it across the line.
So I say, yes while they may have only punched you, and now you are taking out a gun, you have to look at what they have been doing, and how it reflects on the larger scale. The prime minister of Lebanon, claimed he would take over the border with his army. This was 24 hours ago, where is he now. Why did it take him 48 hours to even respond with that, when it was part of a UN resolution from over a year ago? Enough if the government will continue to tolerate it, then the people have to change it. And if the people do not want to change it, then there are consequences for allowing the terrorists to co-exist in your country.
I am horrified, saddened, I have relatives in that region, and every attack I hear of, in Israel makes me flinch. And you have to realize that we do not hear of 1/30 of them. There have been over 500 rockets fired in to Israel over the last year. And every day I say a prayer for my family there. You can complain about this, how about the complaint of living under that fear daily of the suicide bombers, of the rockets, of the continuous assault, the feeling that they will never recognize Israel as a right to exist. Sorry but I feel that war is barbaric, and there is a lot of wrong things about it, but at some point it is needed.