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Old 07-15-2006, 09:37 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by willravel
It would illustrate quite well that two wrongs don't make a right.
Hezbollah bombs Israel because they want them destroyed. Israel bombs Lebanon is hopes of crippling Hezbollah.

I guess it's just me, but I see a difference.

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Is Israel at war with Hezbollah or Lebanon? Because it looks to me like the latter is bearing the brunt of the attack.

If Israel were pointing their guns at Hezbollah soldiers and innocent Lebanese citizens were running by and got caught in the crossfire, then I might be able to understand that. That's not the case here. Israel is attacking Lebanon, not just Hezbollah.
Hezbollah holds fourteen seats in the 128 member Lebanese parliament. If the terrorist group which almost weekly carries out some form of attack against Israelies openly holds some amount political power, it seems a good reason to go after Lebanon, does it not?

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That's not reflected by history. Lebanon took in Palestinian refugees during the Arab-Israeli conflict. Syria attacks some of the stronger Palestinian groups in Lebanon who are fighting the Maronite militias. Syria occupied Lebanon until last year. In 1978 Palestinian forces who had fled to Lebanon orchestrated cross-border attacks on Israel, so Israel invaded and occupied Lebanon (all because Lebaon was trying to help the Palestinians). The PLO ( a terrorist organization working indipendantly of the Lebanese government) set up shop in Lebanon and attacked Israel again in the early 80s. This is when Hezbollah was said to have formed. Israel ivaded Lebanon AGAIN. Israel didn't completly withdraw forces until 2000. Iran and Syria are the heavy influence on Hezbollah forces, not the Lebanese government, which on the whole is trying desperately to seperate itself from the Israel/Syria-Iran conflict. In order to remain neutral, the President must be a Maronite Catholic Christian, the Prime Minister must be a Sunni Muslim, and the Speaker of the Parliament must be a Shi'a Muslim. I think that's pretty brilliant. I see that as an honest step in the right direction.
I know what happened in 1982 with the invasion of Lebanon. Israel did withdraw it's forces from Lebanon but they're still attacked by Hezbollah (Continually attacked, I might add). If the Lebanese government wants to take a stand, then they should start by curtailing the activities of Hezbollah in their own country. They can openly state that they don't support Hezbollah, but when Hezbollah holds some amount of political say-so in the country well... That just makes the Lebanese government out to be hypocrites.

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I like the analogy used before. Imagine you're getting shot at by your neighbor, but your neighbor has no control over the weapon. It's actually being controlled from down the street. What do you do? Do you attack your neightbor? Or do you go after the guys down the street? Israel went after it's neighbor.
That's not a very good analogy in this case, because Lebanon does have ties to Hezbollah-- They hold fourteen of 128 seats in the Lebanese parliament. Is it any wonder why Israel would go after Lebanon?

If your neighbor was willingly pulling the trigger, you'd sure as hell go after him. Israel did.

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You seem to think that because Israel has been through really bad stuff, that it's somehow okay to attack innocent civilians. Well it's not. Hezbollah attacked Israel, not the Lebanese people. The Lebanese people have been victimized enough already by arab and jew alike. I'm sick of it, and I've never even been to Lebanon.
Just so repeat myself, it seems as if the Lebanese government is more concerned about taking Israel out than it is protecting their own citizens. Why would you openly accept a terrorist organization which frequently carries out attacks against Israel into your political structure if you didn't share their views? And furthermore, how much has Lebanon actually done to facilitate peace in the Middle East?
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