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Old 07-14-2006, 10:27 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Does this include our government who has kidnapped many people and moved them to guantamo? And don't say that all those people were guilty there is at least 1 case I know of where a guy was completely innocent and he is trying to sue the US government now. Also is it considered kidnapping if you take a soldier?
Governments, by definition, cannot commit acts of terrorism. They may commit acts of war or individuals may commit acts of terrorism, but any military personnel acting under the legal command of their hierarchy cannot commit terrorist acts. They may act outside of orders to do so, but any government-sanctioned actions (regardless of who the government ordering that action happens to be) are either acts of war or unprosecutable as terrorst events. That holds just as much for the Iranian or Afgani government as it does the US. You'll note that neither guilt nor innocence plays absolutely any role whatsoever.



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This definition would include our founding fathers and everyone who faught in the revolutionary war.
Actually, it would NOT include anyone who fought in the Revolutionary War. It would include some Founding Fathers who participated in actions prior to the Declararation of Independence, but their actions during the War would be exempted from the definition of terrorism. If you want to try to expand that definition to include all acts of war ad infinitum, you're welcome to make that arguement, but I think that you would have a difficult time of it. Killing one's opponents on the battlefield has been accepted as legal by virtually every culture in the entirity of history to the point that it becomes an acedemic exercise to find the ones who define it as murder. If you are given a legal order to kill on the battlefield, failure to do so is a crime in virtually every military organization that's ever existed.


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Terrorist has been redefined to anyone who is fighting against us that does not follow the rules set by us. Even though these rules effectively make them unable to fight. It is wrong to make a roadside bomb (IED) but ok to drop huge bombs from the air.
No, it is wrong to make a roadside bomb if you are not a member of an army or other military organization. It would be terrorism for the same roadside bomb builder to drop "huge bombs from the air" since they are officially noncombatants. Terrorist, by definition, are not declared and acknowledged member of any government or acting in accordance with any orders.
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