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Originally Posted by jazz
Why do you assume that these people are armed and dangerous? What evidence do you have that the illegals crossing the border are after anything other than a higher standard of living?
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did we assume that nobody would fly airplanes in to buildings? assumption is the mother of all fuckups. Assuming that the millions a year crossing the border are ONLY looking for a higher standard of living is naive, foolhardy, and potentially devestating.
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Originally Posted by jazz
If a group large enough to shoot up a city launched an attack large enough to warrant a military response, it would almost certainly take a day or two for an appropriate response in almost every Southern city besides Atlanta due to the proximity of the military. If you have a complaint about that, I suggest you start working on a device to instantly transport men and material from one place to another since its a logistics problem, not a political one.
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so we should be at the mercy of a gang of killers with automatic weapons until the military shows up?
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Originally Posted by jazz
And for the record, I do NOT want you or any of your armed neighbors acting as vigilanties on my behalf.
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how about MY behalf? Why should MY family have to be defenseless because You're afraid of guns or don't like guns? What gives YOU the right to keep me defenseless? I'm sure that if you just put a sign up in front of your house that says "I don't want you vigilantes protecting me or my family", we can certainly leave you to your own devices.
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Originally Posted by redlemon
How many DID carry several guns? Well less than 1%, I'd guess.
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If only 1% of a million carried guns, that would be 10,000. Does that put your mind at ease? Lets say that only .1% brought automatic weapons and bombs...that would only be 1,000 people. Are you even more at ease?
The conclusions that i'm drawing stem from many things besides this story.
1) The border patrol is stretched too thin
2) the military is barely there
3) local law enforcement can't do much about it either
conclusion #1 - we are dangerously vulnerable to any criminal/terrorist element that chooses to come in from the south
conclusion #2 - because it takes more than two days to organize any national guard/military/law enforcement that would have any chance at all of stopping a mass shooting, should that happen, the people in whichever towns are targeted are going to pay a heavy price because they would not be able to defend themselves or their town.
conclusion #3 - Because people like jazz think that police and military are the 'only ones' trained and competent enough to handle a gun and that us lowly serfs should just hide in a locked room and wait for the proper authorities to handle anyone 'evil', we'll stay in dire straits and immense danger because of it.
That is why I am saying that gun control is our gravest threat to national security. WE, the people, are the main AND last line of defense of our towns/cities/country....it's a shame that some people consider themselves unworthy of the responsibility