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duckznutz · 05-27-2003, 08:18 AM

Did God make us after we made him?

Only 2 things exist . .
1 - Mass (physical things. Wood, Steel, pencils, cars computers, fruit, fish, mountains, clouds, rain etc)

2 - Energy (heat, light, electromagnetic energy, potential energy, radiation etc)

EVERYTHING is one of these 2 things.

There is however a 3rd thing . . . 'abstract concepts'.
Abstract Concepts exist ONLY within an 'operating system' . . the human mind, an animals mind, a computer maybe?

Abstract Concepts include all emotion, love, hate, fear, jealously, language, writing (eg. this post), works of fiction, philosophy and religion. There is no love on the moon. There is no fear on the moon. there is no hatred on the moon. There is no God on the moon. There are no humans on the moon.

Science = Reality
Religion = Relative concept . . . . . . FICTION.

Little children believe in Santa Claus, baby jesus and the tooth fairy.
Any intelligent adult who seriously shapes and bases their daily life around any work of fiction (be it Star Trek, Star Wars, Harry Potter or 'the bible') is simply trying to escape the pressures and stresses of 'reality'. It is their right to do so . . . . . . . . . . . they may be weak and find comfort and safety with like-minded others.

It is my right to choose not to be a sheep. The lord is NOT my shepherd. I recognise the heirarchichal 'power-pyramid' structure of every church. I see that the churches are wealthy and that those in poverty are more inclined to be religious. I see through all of it so clearly and I think freely and live outwith the artificial rules and constraints that all religions impose. To be religious is immediately to be a hypocrite.

When you understand why you dismiss all gods other than your own, you will understand why I dismiss yours (with apologies).

05-27-2003, 08:18 AM	#101 (permalink)
duckznutz Addict Location: Brook Cottage, Lanark, Scotland	Did God make us after we made him? Only 2 things exist . . 1 - Mass (physical things. Wood, Steel, pencils, cars computers, fruit, fish, mountains, clouds, rain etc) 2 - Energy (heat, light, electromagnetic energy, potential energy, radiation etc) EVERYTHING is one of these 2 things. There is however a 3rd thing . . . 'abstract concepts'. Abstract Concepts exist ONLY within an 'operating system' . . the human mind, an animals mind, a computer maybe? Abstract Concepts include all emotion, love, hate, fear, jealously, language, writing (eg. this post), works of fiction, philosophy and religion. There is no love on the moon. There is no fear on the moon. there is no hatred on the moon. There is no God on the moon. There are no humans on the moon. Science = Reality Religion = Relative concept . . . . . . FICTION. Little children believe in Santa Claus, baby jesus and the tooth fairy. Any intelligent adult who seriously shapes and bases their daily life around any work of fiction (be it Star Trek, Star Wars, Harry Potter or 'the bible') is simply trying to escape the pressures and stresses of 'reality'. It is their right to do so . . . . . . . . . . . they may be weak and find comfort and safety with like-minded others. It is my right to choose not to be a sheep. The lord is NOT my shepherd. I recognise the heirarchichal 'power-pyramid' structure of every church. I see that the churches are wealthy and that those in poverty are more inclined to be religious. I see through all of it so clearly and I think freely and live outwith the artificial rules and constraints that all religions impose. To be religious is immediately to be a hypocrite. When you understand why you dismiss all gods other than your own, you will understand why I dismiss yours (with apologies). __________________ Where your talents and the needs of the world cross . . there lies your vocation.