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Old 07-09-2006, 10:02 AM   #35 (permalink)
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To me, it's disappointing that both of you guys don't even seem to agree with me that it detracts from the potential of this politics forum, when...time after time, the same posters are asked to provide some documentation ....anything.... that could add support for their statements of opinion, and their response is to ignore such requests.

IMO, it would be appropriate, as far as the example that Cynthetiq provided, to request documentation as to whether atrocities, such as the beheading of civilians or of Filipino resistors to the Japanese invasion and occupation of the Phillipines during WWII was widespread or rarely performed by Japanese troops, etc.

In the meantime, I'll just continue my attempts to add facts to these discussions whenever I can, and display them up against the "feelings" based opinions posted on threads, like this one.

Isn't it ironic that Foxnews is <a href="http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=newshounds.us%20new%20york%20times%20SWIFT&btnG=Search&sa=N&tab=wn">tirelessly publicizing</a> the republican campaign against the NY Times reporting of SWIFT monitoring "secrets", when these Five Fox Television affiliates all have, since September 21, 2001, displayed the following story, with this paragraph that seems to destroy Power Line Blog's John Hinderaker's argument? (See my last post....)
Quote:
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/014619.php
......First, there is no evidence whatsoever that any terrorist--let alone all terrorists--ever read the U.N. report.
The fact that the report was on the U.N.'s web site where it could be found, after the fact, by liberals searching for information about SWIFT does not demonstrate that any terrorists knew about it. So on its face, the suggested "proof" is inadequate.........
Yeah, John Hinderaker.....if these five Fox Television affiliates, linked below, and the <a href="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=shoplocal+bal-te-money21sep21&sm=Yahoo%21+Search&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&dups=1&xargs=0&pstart=1&fr=FP-tab-web-t&b=21">Chicago Tribune</a>, <a href="http://www.latimes.com/bal-te.money21sep21,1,2970618.story">LA Times</a>, and <a href="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=shoplocal+bal-te-money21sep21&sm=Yahoo%21+Search&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&dups=1&xargs=0&pstart=1&fr=FP-tab-web-t&b=21">Orlando Sentinel</a>, et al....had all buried their September 21, 2001 reporting on the U.S. government's monitoring of SWIFT, you, our "leaders", and their republican noise machine would have a persuasive case that the NY Times had exposed, in June of 2006, "secret sources and methods".
Quote:
http://fox59.trb.com/bal-te.money21s...,2732416.story

http://fox17.trb.com/news/nationworl...,3656428.story

http://fox43.trb.com/entertainment/f...,4288990.story

http://q13.trb.com/news/bal-te.money...,1003427.story

http://fox61.trb.com/bal-te.money21s...ll=wtic-home-2

.......Funding on that scale would not necessarily have required large international bank transfers of the kind often seen in cases involving drug cartels or corrupt regimes. That could limit the ability of the National Security Agency to follow the money through its electronic intercepts of such transactions, which are carried out by the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunications (SWIFT), headquartered in Belgium.....

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