View Single Post
Old 07-09-2006, 10:02 AM   #35 (permalink)
host
Banned
 
To me, it's disappointing that both of you guys don't even seem to agree with me that it detracts from the potential of this politics forum, when...time after time, the same posters are asked to provide some documentation ....anything.... that could add support for their statements of opinion, and their response is to ignore such requests.

IMO, it would be appropriate, as far as the example that Cynthetiq provided, to request documentation as to whether atrocities, such as the beheading of civilians or of Filipino resistors to the Japanese invasion and occupation of the Phillipines during WWII was widespread or rarely performed by Japanese troops, etc.

In the meantime, I'll just continue my attempts to add facts to these discussions whenever I can, and display them up against the "feelings" based opinions posted on threads, like this one.

Isn't it ironic that Foxnews is <a href="http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=newshounds.us%20new%20york%20times%20SWIFT&btnG=Search&sa=N&tab=wn">tirelessly publicizing</a> the republican campaign against the NY Times reporting of SWIFT monitoring "secrets", when these Five Fox Television affiliates all have, since September 21, 2001, displayed the following story, with this paragraph that seems to destroy Power Line Blog's John Hinderaker's argument? (See my last post....)
Quote:
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/014619.php
......First, there is no evidence whatsoever that any terrorist--let alone all terrorists--ever read the U.N. report.
The fact that the report was on the U.N.'s web site where it could be found, after the fact, by liberals searching for information about SWIFT does not demonstrate that any terrorists knew about it. So on its face, the suggested "proof" is inadequate.........
Yeah, John Hinderaker.....if these five Fox Television affiliates, linked below, and the <a href="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=shoplocal+bal-te-money21sep21&sm=Yahoo%21+Search&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&dups=1&xargs=0&pstart=1&fr=FP-tab-web-t&b=21">Chicago Tribune</a>, <a href="http://www.latimes.com/bal-te.money21sep21,1,2970618.story">LA Times</a>, and <a href="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=shoplocal+bal-te-money21sep21&sm=Yahoo%21+Search&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&dups=1&xargs=0&pstart=1&fr=FP-tab-web-t&b=21">Orlando Sentinel</a>, et al....had all buried their September 21, 2001 reporting on the U.S. government's monitoring of SWIFT, you, our "leaders", and their republican noise machine would have a persuasive case that the NY Times had exposed, in June of 2006, "secret sources and methods".
Quote:
http://fox59.trb.com/bal-te.money21s...,2732416.story

http://fox17.trb.com/news/nationworl...,3656428.story

http://fox43.trb.com/entertainment/f...,4288990.story

http://q13.trb.com/news/bal-te.money...,1003427.story

http://fox61.trb.com/bal-te.money21s...ll=wtic-home-2

.......Funding on that scale would not necessarily have required large international bank transfers of the kind often seen in cases involving drug cartels or corrupt regimes. That could limit the ability of the National Security Agency to follow the money through its electronic intercepts of such transactions, which are carried out by the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunications (SWIFT), headquartered in Belgium.....

Last edited by host; 07-09-2006 at 10:16 AM..
host is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360