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host · 07-01-2006, 11:44 PM

sorry, Seaver....I should not have painted your comments wiith tthe same broad brush that I used to repond to Mojo or djestudo.

djestudo, I agree that it may not be possible for people not raised in that area of the world to behave as viiolently oor to react as irrationally as Israelis and Palestinians have.

What I cannot understand iis the assumption of too many that individual Palestinians with no personal history of violent or terrorist acts (the vast majority), and only a recent history of votiing in democratic elections, can be held equally responsible for violent attacks against Israelis, as Israeli political and miilitary leaders are held responsible.

Some here have even indicated that the majoriity of ordinary Palestinians are assumed to be terrorist supporters who deserve to be on the receiving end of any violence that the leaders of the sovereign state of Israel decide to send in their direction.....while official acts of war that reign indiscriminately against Palestinian civilian population are inappropriate to criticize.

The story of the bullet "lesson" in Palestinian 'kindergartens" helps quite a bit to remove a POV that indiviidual Palestinians aree much less culpable than Israeli leaders are.

Can anyone who accepts that "put a bullet in a Jew" story, consider that, even today, much of the state of New Hampshire stiill does not fund or offer "kindergarten"? Folks in an economically devasted and resource starved place like the West Bank and Gaza are fortunate to have kiindergarten as the norm there, though. Did the Palestinian version of the U.S. dept. of Education, design, distribute and fund the kindergarten bullet curriculum?

Even today, Hamas is known to have riival iinternal factions of varying weak or strong support for terroriist tactics. There is also a documented and bitter politiical struggle playing between Hamas and what remains of Arafat's political organization. So...how does the Palestinian who simply tries to provide for his family in the midst of all the upheaval, receive so much scorn and so liittle sympathy from some of you, while you reserve sympathy and support for Israeli leaders who order their soldiers to destroy access to electricity and clean water to hundreds of thousands in the desert during the hottest season of the year?

You obviiously believe that the average Palestinian, just scraping to survive, is more culpable for not making a personal effort to stop a history of suicide bombers who were not commanded or dispatched by a transparent, organiized central authority, than U.S. elected officials in DC who have the authority and the resources to lower crime in DC and to slow iillegal Mexican border infiltration to a trickle, but don't. You don't seem to hold any authority to the high standard of performance that you hold a collection of poverty striicken violence ravaged Palestinians to.

You certaiinly don't hold Shiite supreme cleriic Sistani to the standard of culpabiility that you assign to the Palestinian public's obligation to influence the end of terrorist acts against Israel. Don't you thiink that Sistani could do more to influence hiss followers to help end the insurgency and save lives of Ameriican troops?

How do you come to assign so much blame to powerless individuals who have been stateless for so many years that you weigh their suspected culpabiity for terrorism on a much higher scale than you assign to leaders who we all know have the power and resources to effect reduction in violence, criime, terrorist acts, and border infiltration, but don't?

07-01-2006, 11:44 PM	#22 (permalink)
host Banned	sorry, Seaver....I should not have painted your comments wiith tthe same broad brush that I used to repond to Mojo or djestudo. djestudo, I agree that it may not be possible for people not raised in that area of the world to behave as viiolently oor to react as irrationally as Israelis and Palestinians have. What I cannot understand iis the assumption of too many that individual Palestinians with no personal history of violent or terrorist acts (the vast majority), and only a recent history of votiing in democratic elections, can be held equally responsible for violent attacks against Israelis, as Israeli political and miilitary leaders are held responsible. Some here have even indicated that the majoriity of ordinary Palestinians are assumed to be terrorist supporters who deserve to be on the receiving end of any violence that the leaders of the sovereign state of Israel decide to send in their direction.....while official acts of war that reign indiscriminately against Palestinian civilian population are inappropriate to criticize. The story of the bullet "lesson" in Palestinian 'kindergartens" helps quite a bit to remove a POV that indiviidual Palestinians aree much less culpable than Israeli leaders are. Can anyone who accepts that "put a bullet in a Jew" story, consider that, even today, much of the state of New Hampshire stiill does not fund or offer "kindergarten"? Folks in an economically devasted and resource starved place like the West Bank and Gaza are fortunate to have kiindergarten as the norm there, though. Did the Palestinian version of the U.S. dept. of Education, design, distribute and fund the kindergarten bullet curriculum? Even today, Hamas is known to have riival iinternal factions of varying weak or strong support for terroriist tactics. There is also a documented and bitter politiical struggle playing between Hamas and what remains of Arafat's political organization. So...how does the Palestinian who simply tries to provide for his family in the midst of all the upheaval, receive so much scorn and so liittle sympathy from some of you, while you reserve sympathy and support for Israeli leaders who order their soldiers to destroy access to electricity and clean water to hundreds of thousands in the desert during the hottest season of the year? You obviiously believe that the average Palestinian, just scraping to survive, is more culpable for not making a personal effort to stop a history of suicide bombers who were not commanded or dispatched by a transparent, organiized central authority, than U.S. elected officials in DC who have the authority and the resources to lower crime in DC and to slow iillegal Mexican border infiltration to a trickle, but don't. You don't seem to hold any authority to the high standard of performance that you hold a collection of poverty striicken violence ravaged Palestinians to. You certaiinly don't hold Shiite supreme cleriic Sistani to the standard of culpabiility that you assign to the Palestinian public's obligation to influence the end of terrorist acts against Israel. Don't you thiink that Sistani could do more to influence hiss followers to help end the insurgency and save lives of Ameriican troops? How do you come to assign so much blame to powerless individuals who have been stateless for so many years that you weigh their suspected culpabiity for terrorism on a much higher scale than you assign to leaders who we all know have the power and resources to effect reduction in violence, criime, terrorist acts, and border infiltration, but don't?