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Old 07-01-2006, 12:14 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Okay....from comments that I've read here so far, I have the impression that the two threads that I started in the last 3 months that displayed my research on JINSA were largely ignored, dismissed, or discounted. Some of the posts I've read here could have been written by JINSA or mossad.....why is their no ability or desire to empathize.....to put one's own feet in the other fellow's shoes for even a moment?

The hair trigger reaction is to side with the nuclear military power....the side that possesses the overwhelming conventional armored military power...the same side with the largest and most influential lobby inserted to influence U.S. government and society. The side that enjoys the support of current and former JINSA affiliates, Cheney, John Bolton, Richard Perle, William Kristol, et al.......

Why does the fact that the world witnessed the news videos of IDF forces reducing, with bulldozers a few years ago, the structure that housed the Palestinian political leader to a splintered shack, with the leader still inside....and then confined him there for the rest of his active days.....not provide a catalyst for the democratic election of Hamas?

I ask you now, Mojo or Seaver, or djestudo, what party would you vote for, if you observed that humiliation of your leader? Did you know that, four years after the IDF closed the new Gaza int. airport, by bulldozing it's main runway, the airport workers still report daily to work at the airport and the terminal, as a reaction of pride and defiiance, and to get paid the wages needed to support themselves.

Fuck yes...they voted for Hamas...the providers of health centers for their families and the most defiant and militant politcal faction that the average man on the street could choose. We live in a world where only the threat of violence gets attention, concessions, and respect. Why do you think John Bolton is the U.S. ambassaor to the U.N. ? Why do you think that North Korea and Iran cling to and flaunt their claimed right to refine weapons grade plutonium?

Here is the link to the 2002 Gaza airport story, and the rest is self explanatory. Consider that Palestinians are as proud as any israeli or American. Consider how you reacted to last year's SCOTUS ruling on eminent domain. Consider that congress lives and does business in DC. Are our politicians held personally responsible for not intervening to stop violent crime and rampant drug distribution in DC?

Would they be more motivated to condemn DC violence if Maryland and Virginia built high walls around DC? Why do you support what the IDF and the Israeli government do against thee majority of Palestinians who commit no violent acts? What would you do if you were a peace abiding, middleaged Palestinian male living in Gaza now, with no electriciity in a summer desert climate, and waning supplies of clean water to sustain you and your family?

http://israelinsider.com/channels/se...s/sec_0170.htm

Quote:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/hea...174333969.html
Health crisis looms as plant bombed
June 30, 2006


THE destruction of the only power plant in the Gaza Strip threatens to create a humanitarian disaster because the plant supplied electricity to two-thirds of Gaza's 1.3 million residents and operated pumps that provided water.

Across Gaza yesterday, people hurried to stock up on emergency supplies of bottled water, candles and food that will not spoil.

With nearly three-quarters of a million people without electricity, Gazans sat on the footpath to try to catch a breeze, glancing skyward when Israeli aircraft circled overhead.

Twelve hours later, workers at the power station were still hosing down six wrecked transformers billowing smoke after each one was picked off by a single missile, leaving heaps of buckled metal.

The plant's operations manager, Derar Abu Sisi, predicted it would not be generating again before the end of the year. He said: "What I know about war is that economics and infrastructure is usually the last target … We're very sorry that it's the first stage of war here. They know very well the electricity sector doesn't have weapons."

Britain has challenged Israel's justification for the bombing of the plant. A Foreign Office spokesman said the destruction of the power station represented a collective punishment of a civilian population that posed no military threat. Collective punishments are a war crime outlawed by the fourth Geneva Convention.

Its closure will be felt acutely during the summer, when demand for air-conditioning peaks...
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192261,00.html
vHamas Leaders to Appeal Residency Ban
Wednesday, April 19, 2006


JERUSALEM — Four senior Hamas officials will appeal Israel's decision to revoke their Jerusalem residency rights, the Palestinian justice minister said Wednesday.

Israel decided Tuesday to strip three Hamas legislators and a Cabinet minister of their Israeli-issued identity cards, which grant them permanent residency in Jerusalem and freedom of movement in Israel.

The decision was an unprecedented punishment for the Hamas-led Palestinian government's refusal to denounce a suicide bombing by another militant group, Islamic Jihad. The bombing outside a Tel Aviv restaurant Monday killed nine civilians and wounded dozens.

Palestinian Justice Minister Ahmed Khaldi said the Hamas government would back the lawmakers' appeal to Israel's Supreme Court, in part because of Palestinian concerns that Israel was trying to establish a precedent to strip more Jerusalem Palestinians of their residency rights.

Gideon Meir, a senior Israeli Foreign Ministry official, brushed aside those concerns. "There is one reason (for revoking the residency rights), and that reason is terrorism," Meir said. "Someone who is involved in terrorist attacks has to take the consequences."

Khaldi said he believed the four have a strong case. "Israel cannot prove that they were involved in any action that violated the law," he said.......
Did I mention that the shell damaged Gaza power plant is insured via a $48 miillion war/terrorism damage policy that it's developer paid for.....funds that will be paid by issuance of additional U.S. treasury debt?

No need for me to condemn the Palestinian killing and kidnapping of Israeli soldiers, although i agree that it is wrong and counterproductive, but so is blind support for Israel, and the existance of JINSA and the MEGA Israeli lobby of our government and the manipulation of our POV.

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