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My reasoning is as circular as saying 4 is 2+2 because 2+2 is 4. If you really had no problems (as in zero, none at all) with gays, you would have no problems with gay marriage, because they would be no more different than people with brown hair and people with red hair. You do have problems with gay marriage, so I can conclude you have some (even if it is small and very specific) problems with gays. I don't see how that's circular.

I consider the existance of divorce to be dispositive of the sanctity of marriage. I consider the ability to get married by the state and not by a church to be dispositive of the sanctity of marriage. I consider the fact that people cheat on their spouses to be dispositive of the sanctity of marriage. If something is truly sacred, it doesn't have exceptions. Marriage has lots of them. That doesn't mean it's not still a big deal and reason for many people to put lots of effort into getting married, nor does it mean that some couples conduct themselves in a way that upholds the sanctity of marriage. That doesn't change the fact that the institution, as a whole, is no longer sacred.

As I'm sure you're well aware, divorce rates are meaningless. If divorce exists, marriage isn't sacred. Remember the "Til death do us part" section? That "sacred" oath before god is violated every time someone gets a divorce. Funny how that works.