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Originally Posted by FoolThemAll
I don't see much point in posting an assertion in a discussion board that you aren't interested in discussing.
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I've actually discussed it quite extensively.
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It's not axiomatic. Your personal experience does not equal the world.
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Actually, for me it is axiomatic. If someone tells me that gay marriage is wrong then i assume that they are a bigot. If we get to talking and it turns out that they were just using flawed logic, well, they aren't a bigot anymore. That doesn't mean my basic assumption was wrong. It just means that they got talked out of being a bigot.
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Eh, not everyone took a class in logic. Not everyone realizes that the slippery slope is always a fallacy (whether it's false or irrelevant). What's random and flailing to you could look convincing to someone less experienced in debate.
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Then it should all come out in the wash. In my experience it really never does, but i concede that it might happen.
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You don't see why I care so much about unsubstantiated blanket accusations? Must be because you're a liberal. You see, 99.99999999% of liberals don't care about the truth. At least not the ones I've met.
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Most of them hate america too.
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I don't recall making the argument that opposition to gay marriage is okay. Let me clarify: it's wrong.
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Give me some credit for giving you some credit; i never seriously thought you did.
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But it's a strange kind of bigotry, the kind which doesn't actually treat those who differ with any less respect, which doesn't lend itself to any feelings of superiority or preachiness. Which may not even favor any difference in legal rights. (See: civil unions.)
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Okay, i'll concede this point. People who believe faulty logic, yet don't actually do anything that is implied by their belief in that faulty logic aren't actually bigots. They have the potential to be bigots, but being a bigot requires activity beyond just believing something.
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I guess I have less respect for your mistake because it's been my experience that your mistake is more of a roadblock to civility/friendship than their alleged yet invisible bigotry.
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It may not appear so on the tfp, but i'm a pretty civil person when it comes to face to face time if i feel like the civility is reciprocal. Just because i think someone is ridiculously mistaken doesn't mean i treat them like a piece of shit.