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Old 06-26-2006, 11:43 AM   #70 (permalink)
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Those changes have only happened RECENTLY. For centuries-- No matter what the culture-- Marriage always has been deemed as a sacred union between males and females. No matter what the causes, many cultures have always openly looked down on homosexual practices.
You claim was that it has always been between male and female. It hasn't. It doesn't matter that the changes I list are recent, they disprove that claim.

Oh, and many Native American tribes followed a practice labled by anthropologists as berdache. Most nations prefer the term two spirit. It allowed, and even celebrated the practice of a male dressing and acting the role of a female even marrying another male. The argument can be made, I suppose, that this represents an early form of transsexualism, but given what I've read on the subject I think it covers both male homosexuality and transsexuality depending on the degree to which the two-spirited person identified as masculine or feminine.

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Oh! And marriage isn't a right. It's a privilege.
In the United states marriage is a right. Loving v. Virginia:

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These statutes also deprive the Lovings of liberty without due process of law in violation of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men.

Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival.
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Homosexuality in nature occurs for procreation purposes (All right, in some species which lack both sexual organs (Such as some primates), homosexual tendencies have been observed, but the actual act of sex between same genders have not).
In Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity, biologist Bruce Bagemihl documents hundreds of animal species that exhibit various kinds of homosexual behaviors.

Non human animals engage in pretty much every sexual behavior that humans do.

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Nothing more, nothing less. Not to gay bash or offend anyone, but the reasons for homosexuality occurring in nature are far different than the reasons homosexuality occurs in humans, as two homosexuals can not reproduce (I believe someone stated that earlier).
We don't know the exact reasons for homosexuality occurring in nature outside of human beings, though it has been linked to overcrowding in some species. We have a very good grasp of the causes of male homosexuality in humans, while there seem to be multiple causes, mostly environmental, for females. They're both natural, though.

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