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Old 06-26-2006, 12:52 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
Rationality has no bearing on bigotry, only perspective, a bigot is merely someone who is intolerant of somebody elses view, which you clearly are on this matter.
I was actually using the old definition of bigot:"One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ," or some similar variation. Bigots are intolerant of people who aren't like them because they aren't like them. I am intolerant of the perspective of the vast majority of people who opposed the existence of homosexuality and homosexual marriage because i find them by and large to be short on intellectual honesty concerning the subject of homosexuality. That is my personal experience. I'm intolerant of people who aren't capable of stating with conviction that they just don't like the gays and that's that. There's always some kind of convoluted explanation like the one you offered right here in this very post.

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Also as an aside, not to jump to far down the trail of absurdity, but last time I checked, A black man and a white woman, or any color combination thereof, can procreate. Procreation, you know natures grand decision for the survival of a species, is wholly natural; that having been said, it seems homosexuality would there by be an aberration of nature, right or wrong.
Well, first of all, i wasn't asking you about your opinion on interracial marriage. I was comparing arguments used against interracial marriage with arguments used against gay marriage and finding some similarities. Obviously the clever "gays can't have kids" distraction doesn't apply to interracial marriage. The whole "It just ain't right" and "god don't like it" arguments do apply.

About that distraction: Homosexuality happens. In nature. All the time. It is as natural as an elm tree. I've never heard of it being a threat to the existence of humanity, or any species in general. As far as i know there aren't any animals on the endangered species list because of homosexuality, though that certainly would make for some interesting conservation efforts.

Gays can and do procreate. Some of your friends probably have homosexual mothers or fathers. One nice thing about nature(unless you're a social conservative) is that nature doesn't check for a marriage license prior to allowing mating. As you said "procreation... natures grand decision for the survival of a species, is wholly natural" Homosexuals can procreate, therefore they are natural, at least as far as your logic goes.

As an aside and not directed at mojo, it is interesting to hear so many religious folk suddenly abandon any kind of notions concerning the intention of their "intelligent designer" and embrace "flawed" evolutionary theories when the subject of homosexuality comes up. Apparently, even though the lord created us in his image as part of some divine plan, when it comes to the propogation of our species it's all survival of the fittest. Regardless of god's intentions or omnipotence the future of his favorite species can be thrown into doubt by the smallest of nonhereditary potentially maladaptive behavioral changes.

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