NoSoup

I don't associate ignorance with disagreement, necessarily. Also, ignorance does not make you stupid. I didn't mean to imply that I thought you were.

However, I do associate ignorance with unwaivering beliefs on a topic when there is so much scientific evidence that contradicts that belief. I'm certain you could show me a ton of referances contradicting what I just stated, as I could show you just as many reinforcing it. My point, though, is that some of the leading scientific minds in the world who have studied this problem with far greater verocity than you or I have still haven't come to a final conclusion - in fact, we are nowhere near it. Depression is an incredibly complex issue, and neither you nor I are qualified to really state anything with any certainty.

I apologize - I don't mean to associate strong conviction with ignorance. I'm also going to have to disagree with you as to how conviction increases with knowledge. There are many people out there that are absolutely convinced of incredibly false things. Although this is rather cliche, there were a huge number of people that believe the earth was flat with absolute conviction, and they were obviously ignorant as to the actual fact.

Perhaps I wasn't clear. I wasn't trying to insinuate that you had changed your mind on the success vs. failure facet of your argument, it just seemed to me that you had gone from scoffing addicts to actually empathizing with them - something it doesn't appear that you do with depressed people.

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