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Originally Posted by willravel
Minimum wage isn't about fixing poverty, it's about taking an active role in trying to prevent poverty.
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No its not. Its about making people who are in favor of minimum wage feel good about themselves.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Not a fix, more of a piace of tape that prevents the back bumper from falling off. It's better than nothing. "...there has always been poverty and there always will be." is an excellent cop out and a great way to ignore your social responsibility. Stevo, there has always been murder and there always will be. Maybe we should stop taking steps to prevent it?
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We don't try to prevent murder as much as we try and punish people who have comitted murder. Anyway the bumper analogy is pointless. If my bumper was falling off I wouldn't tape it back up. I'd bolt it back on. Bumpers on cars are nothing like poverty.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Some business owners are greedy, and no one can argue with that. Someone who makes over $50 million a year is no longer able to call him or herself a working stiff, and is living so far above the poverty line that it's not even visable. I put my sweat and tears in to my business, but I make damn well sure that my workers get fair compensation.
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Some <- thats the key word here. What about the average business owner the guy who is the working stiff? It sure is convenient to ignore him when we talk about minimum wage.
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Originally Posted by willravel
As much as the libertarian in me agrees with the previous statement, it's just not logical. Have you ever tried to start your own busniess? Do you know the capitol it takes to do that?
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With today's technology it is less expensive than ever to start a business. While I personally don't run my own business I have (and still help) family members run theirs.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Some people, like myself, are stuck in the job that they have because either they have no other options, or the other options are even worse than the job you currently have. I'd love to start my own business or change jobs right now, but I have a responsibility to my family to do waht it takes to put food on the table and a roof over our heads.
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But no one has yet to answer the question - Where does the money come from to pay the minimum wage? Where?
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Originally Posted by willravel
Stevo, have you ever worked for minumum wage?
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yes. way back when.