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Originally Posted by aceventura3
The Feds don't control the costs. Increasing costs is attributed to those who run the schools. If the complaint is that the Feds are cutting support thats one thing, if costs are going up thats another. I think a reason costs go up is because universities know they have a "sugar daddy", or the federal government to make it affordable for the average person. The schools have had no incentive to improve and cut costs. Perhaps this is a good topic for a new thread.
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Well, increasing costs could also be associated with inflation, and when funding doesn't keep up with inflation, which is the case where i live, tuition increases are inevitable. I agree that some sugar daddy-ish action goes on, but i don't think it is the sole reason behind tuition increases.
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Here is how it works:
I present facts supporting my point of view.
You challenge those facts or present facts supporting the opposing point of view.
I support my position with more facts or defend my original facts.
Etc
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Until you conceed to my point of view.
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Okay, here we go. The original premise of the thread is that SSE is working. Well, what does that mean exactly? I already said clear as day why i don't think SSE is working very well on a micro level. Maybe you could tell me why it is working on a micro level(besides the ability of people to get deeper into debt through financing for houses and cars), because i look around and i don't see an economy that is necessarily "working" in the greatest possible sense.
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It is common knowledge that the prisons are filled with people who have commited drug related crimes. Check out this site: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/ It is the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Look at the long-term trends.
Also just think about it. When a UAW worker gets laid off, he doesn't start stealing cars. A drug addict steals cars to get money for drugs. With the exception of postal workers, people don't generally kill co-workers for more money, a promotion or a job, but a drug dealer will kill another drug dealer to control a drug territory to make more money.
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According to
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/dcf/duc.htm
"In 2002 about a quarter of convicted property and drug offenders had committed their crimes to get money for drugs, compared to 5% of violent and public order offenders.
In 2004 of the 14,121 homocides 3.9% were drug related."
Nationally, violent crime is up:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...s_spike_in_us/
Why for?
"The jump could also represent a lingering effect of the Sept. 11 2001, attacks, some experts said, because governments at all levels have diverted resources away from traditional crime fighting in favor of antiterrorism and homeland security programs."
As i said before, in my state money has been diverted from traditional crime fighting directly as a result of 9/11 and indirectly as a result of the SSE philosophies of the current party in power.
The stats above would seem to imply that most of the increases in violent crime aren't, in fact, due to "illegal drug culture". Some of the increase is no doubt due to increased gang activity. Increased gang activity has a lot to do with a general lack of money available to give potential gang members something more productive to do. The lack of money is a direct result of budget cuts that were a direct result of SSE endorsed tax maneuvering.
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What was the crime rate during the Great Depression in your city compared to today. After you look come back and tell me if you still think crime is mostly correlated to the economy.
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Let me quote myself with certain key parts bolded.
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It isn't the economy directly effecting crime that is the problem in my city. It's the "starve the beast" philosophy held by SSE proponents, among others, that ultimately results in an underfunded police force.
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I don't think SSE works because it takes funds that have the potential to do a great deal of good and it puts them in the hands of people who aren't necessarily inclined to do anything to help their fellow human being. Shit, if they're good capitalists they won't do anything to help their fellow human being.