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Old 06-14-2006, 08:08 PM   #124 (permalink)
Gilda
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Originally Posted by JinnKai
Depressed people are failures. I apologize for the harsh wording of the thread title, but I feel that is the essence of what follows.
I thought the title was probably an attempt at being provocative to draw in readers, but it seems you're actually serious about this, that you actually started a thread for the purpose of insulting people.

By the way, my diagnosis is 'major depressive disorder, mild to moderate, recurrent'.

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I spent almost an hour writing and rewriting this post for brevity.
PLEASE take the time to read it ALL.
After you were nice enought to call me a failure in your OP, how could I not?

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Anecdotally and experimentally, I can say with a high degree of confidence that most "depressed" people have not been diagnosed as chemically depressed.
Please, pray tell, what are these experiments of which you speak? Were they part of your clinical training in the treatment of depression and related disorders? Have they been published in peer-reviewed psychology or psychiatric journals? Can you link to an article, or at least an abstract?

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If you are depressed, you are a failure.

Nothing like kicking a guy while he's down, eh, JinnKai?

I've attempted to reword this statement to be more amiable, but I don't believe I can.
You didn't try hard enough.

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I've been called arrogant and I've been called condescending, but I've never been called a crybaby. To me, the latter would be far more insulting.
You know what I find insulting? Being called a failure because I have an emotional disorder brought on by twenty years of physical and sexual abuse.

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Allowing yourself to be "depressed" is convenient, because it lets you ignore the true reason for your failure.
Given that depression and its sister disorder social anxiety manage to suck much of the potential pleasure from my life, I'd say they're decidedly inconvenint.

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The list can go on, but if you find yourself blaming your problems on an external source like parents, money, or depression, perhaps you should reconsider the true source of the emotion.
How is depression an external source?

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I can tell you from personal experience that I was "depressed," and the only thing that got me out of it was knowing that I was the person responsible for my emotions and my actions, and I chose to stop using excuses. I looked into the emotions themselves and determined the true reason; it wasn't that I was "depressed." It was that I thought I was unattractive, I thought no one liked me, and I thought that I would never succeed in life. I've addressed each one of thsoe individually, and it's taken me much further than wallowing in my "depression" ever would have.
So the personal experience you have with never having been depressed somehow qualifies you to pass harsh critical judgment on those of us who have and insult us for having an emotional disorder? Do you going around mocking mentally handicapped people by calling them retards, too?

I get it. You're a better person than I am because you've conquered your emotional problems all by yourself, while I can't.

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