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Agreeing with Halx I must say that I am, and have been many times, clinically depressed; that is diagnosed after taking the proper steps by trained and certified physicians.
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How does this agree with Hal, at all? He said that my argument was flawed becuase we need a dispersion of mentalities, and I fail to see how your unique failure creates any sort of "agreement" beyond providing an example. I agree with him myself, the argument is flawed because it sets a standard. That doesn't mean I can't assign the "dispersed mentalities" labels that I feel fit.
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And I have also been diagnosed, at an early age, with severe social anxiety.
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Hey, me too. I got over it.
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I am not, and I am quite clear, a life long failure or loser.
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Never said you were. If one continues to be depressed, they'll continue to fail.. but that doesn't make them a "life long failure" nor did I imply such.
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But it seems that you are refering to sad people. Sad people and depressed people are not the SAME people.
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Depressed people are just sad people who decided to stay sad for longer then necessary.
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Although, you are free to disagree sir; although I believe doing so would be altogether ignorant.
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If I disagree with you, I'm ignorant. And you're not setting a standard? You're open minded and willing to see other opinions? Not with rhetoric like that, you aren't. I'm fine with you telling me that I set standards, but don't you dare claim that you aren't.
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That sir, is not failure, that sir is very much success.
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And how did you succeed? Oh.. that's right. You stopped being depressed. So if you "got out" and you're now succeeding, what were you doing when you were depressed?
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I say this not to be rude but I feel your response will be feble and filled with holes that just attribute to your own ignorance and hostility. Please feel free to prove me very wrong.
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That was fun.
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# a mental state characterized by a pessimistic sense of inadequacy and a despondent lack of activity
# a long-term economic state characterized by unemployment and low prices and low levels of trade and investment
# natural depression: a sunken or depressed geological formation
# sad feelings of gloom and inadequacy
# a period during the 1930s when there was a worldwide economic depression and mass unemployment
# low: an air mass of lower pressure; often brings precipitation; "a low moved in over night bringing sleet and snow"
# depressive disorder: a state of depression and anhedonia so severe as to require clinical intervention
A mental state of depressed mood characterized by feelings of sadness, despair and discouragement. Depression ranges from normal feelings of the blues through dysthymia to major depression. It in many ways resembles the grief and mourning that follow bereavement, there are often feelings of low self esteem, guilt and self reproach, withdrawal from interpersonal contact and physical symptoms such as eating and sleep disturbances.
# a depressive disorder characterized by extreme feelings of sadness, lack of self-worth, and dejection.
# Not just temporary or situational sadness, but a persistent and pervasive feeling of sadness or hopelessness that is often associated with weight loss (or gain), sleep disturbances, constipation, disturbances of sexual function, and feelings of guilt or self-blame.
# a lifestyle whose structure prevents growth of the personality.
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Your post sounds precisely like the "whiny" depressed people that I'm talking about. Aren't they wonderful because you escaped the evil grips of such a strong mental affliction? Not really. A little self-control (or some drugs, I never discounted chemical depressions, see 8 if you even bothered to read my first post) could have prevented it in the first place.
If you want to use depression as an excuse or let it justify why you did poorly at something, then by all means go ahead. Just don't believe that I'm going to accept something with definitions above is something attributed with "success." I don't normally think of "gloom, inadequacy, sadness, lack of self-worth, dejection, sleep disturbances, constipation, mood disoders, disturbances of sexual function" as being "successful." You define it how ya wanna.