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Originally Posted by stevie667
Just for the record, i believe this argument is going nowhere fast.
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you're probably right. It's been my experience that the majority of anti-gun liberals have an ideal that refuses to be shaken, even when presented with cold hard facts to refute their position. Not that i'm saying you're 'liberal', but it certainly seems that way from what you've stated so far.
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Originally Posted by stevie667
Locking everyone who commits a violent crime up for life? I definatly agree with the sentiment, but its about as realistic as getting all the bad guys round for a cup of tea and discussing why what they do is wrong.
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I agree, realistically this can't happen because too many 'liberal' minded individuals think that these violent criminals are just misunderstood.
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Originally Posted by stevie667
You said why not force the idiots to stop being idiots. Now your saying, for all intents and purposes, that the idiot parents need to stop the idiot children being idiots. People won't stop doing what they're doing because its the right thing to do, or because someone tells them. They will do what is easiest, plain and simple. The few people who are sensible enough in the first place don't factor into the equation because they're already responsible.
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which is why I say that the only solution is to lock them up when they commit a crime. If a person or criminal can't be trusted with weapons, they don't need to be walking the streets.
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Originally Posted by stevie667
Having armed guards at school does one thing, ensure that when someone does get pissed off enough to come in with a gun, there will his death if not others. It doesn't solve the issues of the kids being armed, they can still go out on the streets and blow people away.
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and it wouldn't get very far in the streets either if people took responsibility for their own defense instead of leaving it to incompetent police.
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Originally Posted by stevie667
I will agree with your final statement, but, you must agree, someone can't use a weapon for bad purposes if they don't have one, it doesn't matter who they are. I do leave the police out of my statements because they aren't the problem in society.
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Again, if you could guarantee, with your life, that nobody could ever get their hands on a weapon, i'd consider weapon banishment a possibility. As for police not being the problem? I suggest you google 'police' and 'we're the only ones' and start reading the stories of police being problems. Of course one might say that this is just the example of only a few people, but I could say the same thing about 'citizens' irresponsibility with guns being 'just a few'.