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Originally Posted by shakran
And yes I'm sure that you would say they should stop staring at the wall and go get help, hence the responsibility - - but I would say with all due respect that if you have not either been depressed, known someone who was depressed, or studied / treated depression, you do not understand how hard it is to get off that couch.
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I wouldn't say that they should stop staring at the wall and go get help. I never said anything remotely like that. Of course, depression is a difficult mental illness. I'm familiar with it's symptoms. Of course, people who are depressed should be helped. Yes, it takes more than just getting up off the couch to come out of a depressive episode. (Just as it takes more than getting off the couch to fight cancer). None of this removes any personal responsibility.
Also, I am familiar with depression personally, academically, and professionally. (Not that it matters one way or the other. I don't place much stock in arguments from authority).