First of all, thank you jorgelito for sharing your story. I was sorry to hear that you didn't feel you could share your story on TFP and be heard... it might be useful for the rest of us, especially the mods, if you could say more about that. I started some threads in the past about whether or not Christians feel welcome here, and whether or not gay people feel welcome here, since there is a degree of Christian and gay-bashing at times... and now I would be interested in knowing if depressed people feel welcome here. Your input would be valued. (Did you write about these issues in a TFP journal, btw?)
I'm glad to hear that you are no longer struggling with serious depression, and you are lucky that you were able to get yourself out of it, on your own.
I wanted to say something about this, though...
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Originally Posted by JinnKai
"Most importantly, however, I believe it. People who use depression or sadness as excuses for failure are losers AND failures in my book."
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Originally Posted by jorgelito
I agree. Depression happens and there are different levels and stages of depression. But using said depression as an excuse for failure is, well, inexcusable (in my opinion). And that I believe is the critical element of Jinn's theory.
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Unless he has changed his argument, I don't think Jinn's theory is that people who *use* depression as an *excuse* for failure are losers. If that were true, I would have to agree with him. I don't respect excuses, though I know they happen because we are all human.
No, Jinn's theory, unless I completely misunderstand him, is that people who ARE depressed ARE failures. It's not about *excuses* for failure; a depressed person IS the failure (see thread title). To him, it is a value-laden thing, putting you right on the polarized map of good and evil, success and failure, black and white. It is a fine line, but an important one to distinguish from what I can tell in your opinion, vs. his.
Feel free to clear this up, however. But that's just what I am getting out of it.
EDIT: Sorry jorgelito, I saw your thread and started responding immediately. By the time I posted, you had erased your post.
