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Originally Posted by host
The goal is world domination
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Originally Posted by Seaver
You have statements like that before your links and then get mad people dont read them all?
And as for your Godsmack interview, I used to listen to them. I thought it was a great idea for the Navy to use their song. Yes, there is a correlation between young men and those who listen to rock. Yes, young men are who the military want to recruit. Your point? It's called advertising to your intended demographic. You wont get many recruits if you have flowers and hippies playing a guitar in your advertisements.
How this has anything to do with the terrorist threat, or your belief that Bush wants nothing short of world domination, I still dont know.
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Seaver, I am not "mad"....I'm frustrated that so few people are willing to do the, IMO, not too difficult "work" of "connecting the dots. Consider their "statement", consider the "roster" of PNAC members, and the positions that they've held in the Bush administration, and consider that defense and intelligence spending has more than doubled in just six budget years after they took power.....all the info to document these points is here:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project...erican_Century
...........A line frequently quoted by critics from Rebuilding America's Defenses famously refers to the possibility of a "catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor" (page 51). This quote appears in Chapter V, entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force", which discusses the perceived need for the Department of Defense to "move more aggressively to experiment with new technologies and operational concepts” (page 50). The full quote is as follows: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor." Some have used this quote as evidence for their belief the US government was complicit in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. See the article 9/11 conspiracy theories for further information on this topic............
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The jury is still out, Seaver, as to whether it's just "sh*t luck" that <b>"the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor."</b>, line was a "prescient coincidence", or whether the "process of transformation" was somehow accelerated by the complicity of PNAC members in the "events" of 9/11.
My point again, Seaver, is that the PNAC cabal got everything that they wanted since the formation of the group in 1997. They've detailed everything that they've wanted to accomplish. What parts of their twisted, aggressive declarations would you suggest that I not react to?
Do you expect that they will spell their agenda out, more obviously than they already have? They declared what they wanted to accomplish in the areas of world domination via military supremacy, and our paper money has the status of a "dead man walking", as a direct result of the execution of their plan.
I'm a practical person who now accepts that they've boxed us into a corner, economically, and diplomatically......first by a secretive energy policy that reduced to zero, the possibility of decreasing national dependence on petroleum, even as the price rose (oil was $!0 per bbl near the end of the Clinton administration....and the economic justification and imperative to promote alternative energy sources rose with the price....during the PNAC reign).....then..... by whatever their culpability or non-interference with 9/11 attacks really was, and lastly by using the 9/11 attacks as an excuse to turn a budget surplus into a spending bonanza that is funneled to their connected friends in the military industrtial complex and in pertoleum related businesses.
The result is not a "war on terror". The "war" is against everyone who sees past their quest for hegemony and reacts by resisting. It isn't a patriotic quest, either, Seaver. These folks are not patriots/ They are power and money grubbing parasites with a quest for empire building as old as human history.
Look at what they've written, look at what they've done, look at where the U.S. is economically, militarilly, diplomatically, and look at the accumulating trade, treasury, and budget deficits, now, vs. six years ago,
How do you think that, other than at the point of gun or of an ICBM, the U.S. will continue to be able to purchase 14 million bbls a day of petroleum, and finance, at current forward levels, a $1.4 trillion annual combined trade and budget deficit, and service the interest obligation on the current $14 trillion combined treasury and trade debt?
Will we simply print more paper money to pay for it all, Seaver.....and will the purchasing power of the newly printed fiat money magically remain at current levels?
The rising prices of Gold, Silver, Light Sweet Texas Crude, copper, coffee, other commodities, as well as the Euro and the Canadian dollar, all already indicate that the answer is no.
So.....then what's left to do, Seaver? I predict that we will take....by force, what we are no longer capable of paying for....with our currency trashed by the execution of the PNAC agenda. Other realistic scenarios are always welcome.....but no one seems to have any.....to post.