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Originally Posted by Marvelous Marv
David Koresh tried that in Waco. It turned out poorly.
Randy Weaver tried it at Ruby Ridge. It turned out poorly.
The FBI and BATF were proved to have lied repeatedly and extensively in each case. Did you see ANY of them go to jail for perjury? Did you see Janet Reno tried, after she "took full responsibility" for Waco?
Bush was not president at the time, BTW.
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Intereting point. The difference is, of course, that I refuse to use guns. I've never owned a gun. I can't shoot a gun. None of my neighbors have guns. The FBI and ATF wouldn't have any jurisdiction. While the same was tru of the jurisdiction at Waco and RR, the local PD in San Jose HATES when feds stick their noses in local business...so it's be more difficult for them to buldoze my house or snipe me.
My point is that civil disobedience can still be a functional tool against a potential police state or a dictatorship. I would never condone any illegal actions by anyone (I take responsibility for my own actions, of course), but non violent resistence is a wonderful thing.