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Old 06-04-2006, 12:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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During the Viet Nam war, I refused to register for selective service, and then i stayed in the U.S.......kept a low profile, and Carter pardoned us:
Quote:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/...m_1-21-77.html
The MacNeil/Lehrer Report -- January 21, 1977
CARTER'S PARDON

.........Louise Ransom, affiliate director of Americans for Amnesty, said she believed the problems with the draft resulted from the way it was conducted.

Louise Ransom"There seems to be a myth that because you once went into the army, there's some kind of esprit that you have accepted or believed in," Ransom said. "Well the truth of the matter is that so many of the draft-eligible young men legally avoided the draft that ... <b>all the services took their people predominantly from poor and minority people in this country -- took them right out of high school before they had the opportunity to even examine whether they were conscientious objectors."...........</b>
I was lucky, ASU2003. When I was a sixteen year old, in the late 1960's, I was fortunate enough to have an HS english teacher that required the entire class to purchase a daily supscription to the NY Times, for the entire school year. I started reading it.....read about the contrived Gulf of Tonkin "incident" that Johnson used to justify escalation of the war. I read about My Lai, the Tet Offensive, the fact that the rich suburban boys used college deferments and family connections to avoid Viet Nam. I was informed by the time I was supposed to register for the draft....it made the decision not to cooperate in any way with the "selective" selective service..... Then I "stayed home", and now I know that I had plenty of "company".....Ford pardoned Nixon, and then Carter pardoned a bunch of the rest of us.

Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but received 311.
Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
Tom Delay: did not serve.
House Whip Roy Blunt: did not serve.
Bill Frist: did not serve.
George Pataki: did not serve.
Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
Rick Santorum: did not serve.
Trent Lott: did not serve.
Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
Jeb Bush: did not serve.
Karl Rove: did not serve.
Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.
Bob Ney: did not serve.
David Dreier: did not serve.
Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
Christopher Cox: did not serve.
Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
John M. McHugh: did not serve.
JC Watts: did not serve.
Vin Weber: did not serve.
Bob Barr: did not serve.
Mark Souder: did not serve.
Walter Jones: did not serve.
Katherine Harris: did not serve. .
Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
Richard Perle: did not serve.
Douglas Feith: did not serve.
Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
Richard Shelby: did not serve.
Jon Kyl: did not serve.
Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued in NFL for 8 years.
Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
Lewis Scooter Libby - did not serve
Condaleeza Rice - did not serve

Ari Fleischer: did not serve.
Andrew Card: did not serve.
Ken Adelman: did not serve.

Don Evans: did not serve.
Michael Ledeen: did not serve.
John Bolton: did not serve.
Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.

Kenneth Starr: did not serve.

John G. Roberts, Jr.: did not serve.
Samuel Alito: did not serve.
Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
Clarence Thomas: did not serve.

Sean Hannity: did not serve.
Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
Michael Savage: did not serve.
George Will: did not serve.
Chris Matthews: did not serve.
Bill Bennett: did not serve.
Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
Bill Kristol: did not serve.
Paul Gigot: did not serve.
Ralph Reed: did not serve.
Michael Medved: did not serve.
Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
Anne Coulter: did not serve.
Jerry Falwell: did not serve.
Alan Keyes : did not serve.
Ted Nugent: did not serve.
Matt Drudge: did not serve.
Steve Forbes: did not serve.
Tony Snow: did not serve.
Brit Hume: did not serve.
Roger Ailes: did not serve.

<b>I've been an informed skeptic about our government and about the elite class, who decide "who gets what", for a long time.....</b>
Quote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...bush072899.htm
At Height of Vietnam, Bush Picks Guard

By George Lardner Jr. and Lois Romano
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, July 28, 1999; Page A1

..........Staudt, the colonel who twice had himself photographed with Bush, said his status as a congressman's son "didn't cut any ice." But others say that it was not uncommon for well-connected Texans to obtain special consideration for Air Guard slots. In addition to Bush and Bentsen, many socially or politically prominent young men were admitted to the Air Guard, according to former officials; they included the son of then-Sen. John Tower and at least seven members of the Dallas Cowboys.

"The well-to-do kids had enough sense to get on the waiting list," Martin said. "Some [applicants] thought they could just walk in the door and sign up.".............
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