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Old 06-04-2006, 03:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Etarip
.......All joking aside terrorism really isn't that big of a risk to us. To spread out and big.
I suspect that he was describing the U.S.....the country....compared to.....say .....a small place with a more limited number of population concentrations.... like, Israel, maybe?

Seaver, it doesn't matter if the terrorist "threat" is "made up"....it's the lies and the manipulation that TPTB have used to "eff us over", as a result of the insignifigant, in comparision damage that has been done in the "attacks", vs. the "reaction", which should have been handled by law enforcement agencies, as criminal investigations, not by a senseless "war on terror" that has torn our country apart, resulted in an anti-constitutional "power grab", fat, no bid contracts to the connected, racked up ridiculously high costs in treasure and in blood. and made the U.S. a "pariah", in the view of too many formerly friendly nations.......

Here's where we've come from:
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/25/tappahanock.terror/
Small town beefs up terror patrol

Thursday, December 25, 2003 Posted: 7:15 PM EST (0015 GMT)

(CNN) -- The Tappahannock Police Department doubled its typical Christmas Day task force Thursday to handle the remote possibility that the small Virginia town may be the target of a terrorist attack, Mayor Ray Gladding said.

Instead of one officer patrolling the streets, the town will have two of its 10 officers working the holiday shift to keep Tappahannock's 2,000 residents safe.

The stepped-up patrol follows the raising of the national terror alert to orange (high).

The eastern Virginia town ended up on the FBI's worry list, which includes Los Angeles, California; Las Vegas, Nevada; New York; and Washington. Another rural Virginia area made the list of areas of concern too -- Rappahannock County, with 7,000 residents about 50 miles west of Washington.

"The FBI just told us they intercepted some chatter. They just heard the name," Gladding said. "Somewhere, in translation, the name Tappahannock, Rappahannock [was heard] -- they weren't really sure."

"They couldn't tell what context the words was used in."

As a result, state highway patrols have been beefed up through the town, and residents have been told to keep their eyes open for anything unusual. So far, little has attracted attention.

"We got one call yesterday about someone near a bridge," the mayor said. "It was a news crew from Washington taking pictures."

Things weren't much different Christmas afternoon, he said............
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http://www.livescience.com/humanbiol...sculinity.html
Masculinity Challenged, Men Prefer War and SUVs
By LiveScience Staff

posted: 02 August 2005
03:58 pm ET


Men whose masculinity is challenged become more inclined to support war or buy an SUV, a new study finds.

Their attitudes against gays change, too.

Cornell University researcher Robb Willer used a survey to sample undergraduates. Participants were randomly assigned feedback that indicated their responses were either masculine of feminine.

The women had no discernable reaction to either type of feedback in a follow-up survey.

But the guys' reactions were "strongly affected," Willer said today.

"I found that if you made men more insecure about their masculinity, they displayed more homophobic attitudes, tended to support the Iraq war more and would be more willing to purchase an SUV over another type of vehicle," said Willer said. "There were no increases [in desire] for other types of cars."

Those who had their masculinity threatened also said they felt more ashamed, guilty, upset and hostile than those whose masculinity was confirmed, he said.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021402125.html
325,000 Names on Terrorism List
Rights Groups Say Database May Include Innocent People

By Walter Pincus and Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, February 15, 2006; Page A01

The National Counterterrorism Center maintains a central repository of 325,000 names of international terrorism suspects or people who allegedly aid them, a number that has more than quadrupled since the fall of 2003, according to counterterrorism officials.

The list kept by the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) -- created in 2004 to be the primary U.S. terrorism intelligence agency -- contains a far greater number of international terrorism suspects and associated names in a single government database than has previously been disclosed. Because the same person may appear under different spellings or aliases, the true number of people is estimated to be more than 200,000, according to NCTC officials......

....."We have lists that are having baby lists at this point; they're spawning faster than rabbits," Sparapani said. "If we have over 300,000 known terrorists who want to do this country harm, we've got a much bigger problem than deciding which names go on which list. But I highly doubt that is the case."

Asked whether the names in the repository were collected through the NSA's domestic intelligence intercept program, the NCTC official said, "Our database includes names of known and suspected international terrorists provided by all intelligence community organizations, including NSA."

Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales told the Senate Judiciary Committee last week that he could not discuss specifics but said: "Information is collected, information is retained and information disseminated in a way to protect the privacy interests of all Americans."

The NCTC name repository began under its predecessor agency in 2003 with 75,000 names, and it continues to grow. The center was created as part of a broad reorganization of U.S. intelligence agencies after the failure to disrupt the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. It is the main agency for analyzing and integrating terrorism intelligence and is under direction of Director of National Intelligence John D. Negroponte.

Its central database is the hub of an elaborate network of terrorism-related databases throughout the federal bureaucracy. Terrorism-related names and other data are sent to the NCTC under standards set by Homeland Security Presidential Directive 6, signed by President Bush in September 2003, according to a senior NCTC official. The directive calls upon agencies to supply data only about people who are "known or appropriately suspected to be . . . engaged in conduct constituting, in preparation for, in aid of, or related to terrorism."...
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http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075
Released: February 28, 2006

U.S. Troops in Iraq: 72% Say End War in 2006

......Almost 90% think war is retaliation for Saddam’s role in 9/11, most don’t blame Iraqi

public for insurgent attacks.......

......While 85% said the U.S. mission is mainly “to retaliate for Saddam’s role in the 9-11

attacks,” 77% said they also believe the main or a major reason for the war was “to stop Saddam

from protecting al Qaeda in Iraq.”

“Ninety-three percent said that removing weapons of mass destruction is not a reason for U.S.

troops being there,” said Pollster John Zogby, President and CEO of Zogby International.

“Instead, that initial rationale went by the wayside and, in the minds of 68% of the troops, the

real mission became to remove Saddam Hussein.” Just 24% said that “establishing a democracy that

can be a model for the Arab World" was the main or a major reason for the war. Only small

percentages see the mission there as securing oil supplies (11%) or to provide long-term bases

for US troops in the region (6%)........

........Three quarters of the troops had served multiple tours and had a longer exposure to the

conflict: 26% were on their first tour of duty, 45% were on their second tour, and 29% were in

Iraq for a third time or more...........

........The survey included 944 military respondents interviewed at several undisclosed

locations throughout Iraq. The names of the specific locations and specific personnel who

conducted the survey are being withheld for security purposes. Surveys were conducted

face-to-face using random sampling techniques. The margin of error for the survey, conducted

Jan. 18 through Feb. 14, 2006, is +/- 3.3 percentage points.........
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documen...-jarecki.shtml
<B>WHY WE FIGHT</B>
Eugene Jarecki, USA, 2005
Wednesday 23 March 2005 10pm-11.40pm; 2.10am-3.50am

<B>What are the forces that shape and propel American militarism?</B> This award-winning film provides an inside look at the anatomy of the American war machine.
Director interview: read about the making of the film

......BBC Four: You ask members of the public, "Why do we fight?" Were the replies what you expected?
EJ: No. We must have asked about 150 people all over the country that and other questions. For over 120 of the people, their very first word was "freedom". It's fine that people do want to feel that that's what we are fighting for, <b>but you have to ask yourself what kind of open society are we living in with that consistency of response.</b> I think it's a knee-jerk reaction. If you were living in a state-controlled society how would it be any different? I trust people, I just think that the powerful media that we have is incredibly manipulative. It's unprecedented...........
<b>So...the "stage" was set, by TPTB, to instill fear and misinformation in to the minds of the people, and the soldiers, along with crap like the "homphobia" card, and a pinch of mindless, patriotic boosting, testosterone.....</b>

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