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Originally Posted by Overlord1191
Also, the US did not "lose" Vietnam. All of the military objectives of holding the soviet advance were in place years after the US withdrew. Plus the US forces inflicted horrendous casualties against the North Vietnamese (nearly 10 to 1). It was years later when North Vietnam broke the truce and took South Vietnam and that was mostly the failure of the ARVN. It's pretty unfair to hold the US accountable for a military loss while we were not actually in the country at the time.
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I disagree. Anytime you bring back the troops by having them flee in a helicopter from the roof of your embassy while enemy forces advance, then you have to push the helicopters off the ship to make room for more people, well, that's a loss.