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Old 05-30-2006, 02:18 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Public schools should not make a forum available to people who communicate an advocacy for therapies that are specifically disapproved in policy statements of major and well recognized medical practitioner associations, or describe a sexual orientation that mental health care practitioners, at every level...M.D., PhD, and MSW have determined as not being pathological, or a "disorder", or even abnormal, or as something that should be "treated" via medical care or therapy,........that are intended to alter sexual orientation.

The medical community couldn't be less ambiguous: don't "eff" with it.....attempting to influence anyone to become an "ex" hetero or "ex" homo
sexual, implies that their current orientation is "negative" or not normal, or flawed. This increases the risk to the already fragile self esteem of teen aged,
or younger students, in an area that is part of their core identity....during a key stage in their final development into adulthood.

An "ex"-gay message, sanctioned by schools is a mental and emotional health
issue. Where does a public school stand, legally, after it permits such a message and the communication of a reparative therapy option....for a "condition" or "disorder", that the medical community has declared does not exist, and that there is no medically approved "treatment", nor is there a need for one?

Isn't letting this "ex"-gay message be delivered to students in public schools, an extra legal, and medically unsound, decision by school administrators?
If it isn't then....what is it? Is there any other justification to allow this, that is not rooted in religious fundamentalist beleif, or ignorant or misinformed bigotry against the sexual orientation of others? Are school administrators qualified to determine the validity of healthcare policy or of scientific medical determinations accepted in the medical community? I thought that was under the authority of state medical review and licensing boards, or the FDA.

The medical community says homosexuality is not pathological and that there is no "disorder" to "treat" or to provide "therapy" for. Why then....the posts that focus on whether homosexuality is a "choice". Why is that relevant?
Shouldn't the focus be on why public schools would permit delivery to students, the message of advocacy for a "reparative therapy" that the medical community has determined to be non-effective, and actually risks harm to self esteem, to "repair" a "disorder" that does not exist?

Schools do have an obligation to provide self esteem building methods and outlets for students, especially where is it recognized that attacks on self esteem via misinformation or intentional bigotry are a threat to students' self esteem.
How is your faith in these opinions any different than the faith involved in accepting a religion that supports the opposite view? You are taking blind faith in the views of a group of people. I don't understand this trend that somehow studying something extensively and providing opinions from experts somehow makes it 'law'. They can call it whatever they want, and you can quote as if it's true as the law of gravity, but it doesn't change what the facts are. There are no real scientific developments or anything based on facts in the 'mental health' community that proves anything about sexual orientation. Therefore the debate should remain open just as with creationism or big bang theory or whatever.

If you really want be to 'scientific' why not use a real science, like biology, that is based on tangible facts rather than a foundation of nothing more than opinions of so called experts. Just teach kids the FACTS. Boys have male 'parts' and girls have female 'parts' and both are needed to come together to produce life. It's pretty hard to argue with the facts of a real science when you break it down.

However, if a campus has gay rights groups there's no reason why someone shouldn't have the ability to voluntarily seek out a group that tries to change their orientation. How can you argue with that? Basic freedom of speech/religion if you ask me.

Teaching sexual orientation in middle and high schools though is just wrong. However, in this insane world we live in if you're going to have a pro homosexuality view, then we have to allow for the opposite view.
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