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Originally Posted by shakran
But aside from saving money, this is supposed to be about finding a fuel that's renewable. If we pump more energy into ethanol than we get out of it, then we are not making a renewable fuel - we are simply wasting another fuel (coal, oil, nuclear, take your pick) in order to make an energy storage medium.
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What we're talking about is making a renewable fuel yes. But a renewable/cleaner fuel that would mainly be used in cars. Basically something to just power something really big and portable (can't exactly plug it in). What it takes to make that kind of energy doesnt really matter. If you have to use solar power to power the plants to pump out the ethanol to fuel your cars then thats what it takes. Its better than driving around in a coal powered car, for example. Engines are getting better and better at using their fuel as well, so ethanol doesn't need to be as powerful.
Also when it comes to transportation of the ethanol you don't need to use fossil fuels. The transportation of the ethanol takes big trucks.. and you can fill those with biodiesel which you can literally make out of pretty much any type of organic marterial.
So there ya go. renewable fuel.
I don't give a rat's ass about the farmer politick or what it takes to get a senator or member of congress re-elected. I'm talking strategy to get a viable renewable fuel source that doesn't leave us at the whim of every dude with a Napolean Complex.. be he dictator or CEO.