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Originally Posted by shakran
That's asinine. The government should not be in the position of forcing me to downgrade my car. The government should not be in the position of forcing me to run my car on a fuel that gets lower mpg, and reduces power output, while not saving me any real money.
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Come up with something better.
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As I mentioned already one of the core arguments for ethanol is that it will supposedly make us energy independent, so other countries can't hurt us at will by dicking around with the fuel supply. If we convert to all ethanol, and then we buy the ethanol raw materials from other countries, we have defeated the purpose. This argument does not make sense. At all.
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Those who think the US will ever be independant when it comes to energy are fooling themselves.
As i said.. the problem with the way things work now is that most of the gas coems from places where the government is questionable and taking allt he oil for its own greedy ends. If you go ethanol you'll be helping the little guy. But i guess you're one of those people who would prefer to see people in other countries suffering just so your car can go "vroom vroom" louder as is evident in the first part of this post.
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And you think that if we started buying ethanol materials from other countries that those dictatorial rich tyrants wouldn't jump at the chance to screw us over with that?
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Paranoid much?
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I think you're defeating yourself here. You're right. It is poorly structured. And it's in the infancy stage. Only trouble is, it's been that way for over <b>twenty years</b>. Exactly how long should we give this industry before we finally cut it off life support?
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You must have missed the second half of that part that i typed. Ethanol i already well established in many other countries that we are friendly with. We can obtain it easily from them at lower prices .. especially if there were no tariffs. And if that supply isnt enough we can make the rest ourselves with our home-grown plants.. and can import whatever else we need.
The industry hasnt really gotten any attention in the US until very recently.. thats why its still int he building stages. Other countries have been using this stuff for quite a while now. The blame falls on us for not keeping up.
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that's true, but the majority of the US ethanol industry is fed by corn.
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times change.
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No but you're trying to grow high-sugar corn so you get 8% ethanol yield. Unfortunately animals tend to really like high sugar foods, so you have to keep them away somehow. Scarecrows don't work real well. Hence, the pesticides. Why don't you suggest to us a way that you can grow corn, with no pesticides, and get the <b>same yield</b> as you would growing it the normal way.
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Why so picky about the yield? And as i said earlier you can import tons of material from other palces for far less money than it will take to produce it here. And saving money is what this is all about, right?