Thread: Ethanol future?
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Old 05-23-2006, 06:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
shakran
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Originally Posted by ObieX
Spend a couple bucks and upgrade your car. It really isnt that expensive.
That's asinine. The government should not be in the position of forcing me to downgrade my car. The government should not be in the position of forcing me to run my car on a fuel that gets lower mpg, and reduces power output, while not saving me any real money.





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That is where the corn and sugar from other countries comes in.
As I mentioned already one of the core arguments for ethanol is that it will supposedly make us energy independent, so other countries can't hurt us at will by dicking around with the fuel supply. If we convert to all ethanol, and then we buy the ethanol raw materials from other countries, we have defeated the purpose. This argument does not make sense. At all.





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If the US is going to be dependant on others for energy (and it will ALWAYS BE DEPENDANT ON OTHERS.. and not just for energy) I'd rather we depend on the farmers who work for their living instead of rich power-hungry dictatorial tyrants.
And you think that if we started buying ethanol materials from other countries that those dictatorial rich tyrants wouldn't jump at the chance to screw us over with that?


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Yes, the poorly structured, still in the infancy stage, ethanol industry in the US gets a tax credit. In the mean time the fully developed ethanol industries in other countries that want to send their product to our country get the tariff.
I think you're defeating yourself here. You're right. It is poorly structured. And it's in the infancy stage. Only trouble is, it's been that way for over <b>twenty years</b>. Exactly how long should we give this industry before we finally cut it off life support?





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You can make ethanol from a variety of sources.. not just corn.
that's true, but the majority of the US ethanol industry is fed by corn.

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There are also thousands of different ways to raise a crop without pesticides.. and the quality of your crop doesnt matter as much with making ethanol because you're not trying to make the corn pretty sopeople will buy it to eat
No but you're trying to grow high-sugar corn so you get 8% ethanol yield. Unfortunately animals tend to really like high sugar foods, so you have to keep them away somehow. Scarecrows don't work real well. Hence, the pesticides. Why don't you suggest to us a way that you can grow corn, with no pesticides, and get the <b>same yield</b> as you would growing it the normal way.

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