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Old 05-23-2006, 06:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by shakran
Read the entire thread and you'll see why you're not correct here.
Spend a couple bucks and upgrade your car. It really isnt that expensive.

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According to Cornell University agricultralist David Pimetal, we'd need to use about 97% of the land in the United States to grow enough corn to fuel all the cars on ethanol. That leaves 3% left over for food, roads, and buildings. It's simply not doable.
That is where the corn and sugar from other countries comes in.


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So let me get this straight. You want to gain US energy independence by buying our energy's raw materials from other countries? Isn't that kinda what we're already doing with oil?
Let me put it this way. There's all taht material out there that is extremely cheap that can easily be used to help our country. People don't want it because farmers here think it will put them out of hte job.. when ti wont.. because as you have already said they cant support what we would need.. thus you would need to go someplace else. If we cant grow enough product here we can simply look someplace else where it is much much cheaper.

If the US is going to be dependant on others for energy (and it will ALWAYS BE DEPENDANT ON OTHERS.. and not just for energy) I'd rather we depend on the farmers who work for their living instead of rich power-hungry dictatorial tyrants.




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Well the US Ethanol industry (which by the way gets a federal tax CREDIT of 50 cents per gallon) is not on your side on that one. This, btw, further proves that the ethanol industry is out to make a buck, NOT save the planet or make a better gas.

Yes, the poorly structured, still in the infancy stage, ethanol industry in the US gets a tax credit. In the mean time the fully developed ethanol industries in other countries that want to send their product to our country get the tariff.


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If that's the case then why is the ethanol industry in FAVOR of the tariffs?
US industry is always in favor if them because they have it worse here than other companies in other countries do... you're right about US industry being out for a buck tho.. i mean.. why work if you're not gonna make a buck?

And i think its more the oil industry that wants the tariffs. And if the US ethanol industry does as well then you're right. its due to cash. Solve the problem by getting the good cheaper from someplace else.

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There is no way to farm corn without doing damage to the environment. Fertilizer runoffs cause algae blooms in lakes. Failure to use harmful pesticides means a greatly reduced crop. Corn displaces a crapload of soil.
You can make ethanol from a variety of sources.. not just corn. There are also thousands of different ways to raise a crop without pesticides.. and the quality of your crop doesnt matter as much with making ethanol because you're not trying to make the corn pretty sopeople will buy it to eat.. you'remaking it to ship to a plant to be preocessed. It doesn't have to win any beauty contests.
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