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Originally Posted by ObieX
There really is no reason why this should not have gone foward years ago. (snip) I'm also rather sure that most of the cars around today are already able to use ethanol mix fuels.
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Read the entire thread and you'll see why you're not correct here.
If people are worried that our farmers aren't gonna be able to make enough of the product needed for ethanol.. well.. there's an entire world out there. [/quote]
According to Cornell University agricultralist David Pimetal, we'd need to use about 97% of the land in the United States to grow enough corn to fuel all the cars on ethanol. That leaves 3% left over for food, roads, and buildings. It's simply not doable.
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Most of the world has been trying to get us to buy its farmed products for decades but the US taxes the hell out of it to give a boost to our own farmers. Thats a whole world of cheap corn and other products that is being forcibly kept out of our country that we could be using to help it.
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So let me get this straight. You want to gain US energy independence by buying our energy's raw materials from other countries? Isn't that kinda what we're already doing with oil?
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If the US was really serious about Ethanol.. why not drop the tariff on it? The ethanol tariff is FIFTY-FOUR CENTS A GALLON (yes thats right.. 54 cents a gallon.)
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Well the US Ethanol industry (which by the way gets a federal tax CREDIT of 50 cents per gallon) is not on your side on that one. This, btw, further proves that the ethanol industry is out to make a buck, NOT save the planet or make a better gas.
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Keeping that just proves that people would rather continue to pad the pockets of the current oil giants and they don't give a flying fuck about our oil addiction other than seeing that it continues.
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If that's the case then why is the ethanol industry in FAVOR of the tariffs?
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Originally Posted by kutulu
The farmers don't HAVE to use harmful pesticides. Also, tf the country gets serious about E85 they can always build piplelines. There are no fluid properties that make ethanol unfit for pipeline transport.
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There is no way to farm corn without doing damage to the environment. Fertilizer runoffs cause algae blooms in lakes. Failure to use harmful pesticides means a greatly reduced crop. Corn displaces a crapload of soil.
And the fluid property that makes ethanol unfit for pipeline transport is that it absorbs water and gas does not. That means we can't use current pipelines, which allow water to collect in them. We have to build new pipelines. If you feel like paying for that by higher gas prices, that's fine, but doesn't that defeat the purported purpose of ethanol?