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Originally Posted by host
I have to rule out any statements from Bush. I think that I've made a thorough effort on this forum of backing up my conclusion that nothing the man says can be trusted. He told us that he barely knew Ken Lay, that he had never met Kack Abramoff, and that Saddam posed an imminent threat, not only to his neighbors, but to the U.S. as well.
The president of Iran gives me less reason to distrust his statements, than Bush does. Bush has forged his own "chain", just as Marley forged his.
Why do you succumb to the fear that Bush folks want you to embrace? Post what you "know", that the rest of us have missed, or aren't privy to. Opinions that are faith or feelings based, don't transmit too well, in this medium.
"Bush sez" just isn't enough to take any of this seriously. Neither are the remarks from Iran's leader. They are intended to make Bush seem even more foolish and impotent than he already is. Bush has made up his mind as to what his plan for Iran is. I think that the Iranians know that.
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Thank you! People posting their opinions wholly based on fear of what Bush says might happening has been for a long time a bit of a sore spot of mine... anyway I agree I think Iran knows very well that Bush is not leaning in anyway towards peace with them. I have not seen any evidence that suggests this and so far everything I have read from both your posts in the pasts and others news links usually reports a pressured stressing of Bush on Iran's potential capabilities with nuclear weapons. I view making decisions out of fear and then whining about them with the answer "how could I have known" as a result to be single-minded and increasingly annoying. Facts are much more useful for a debate than consistently reading "Well Bush said this" when it has been repeatedly shown that Bush 1. Either has a severe lack of understanding of many matters, 2. Thinks that people will do what he says because of his the "almighty" power of his administration, or 3.
Both and more.
I also agree with the prospect the Israel needs to be on its own, I don’t buy the "everyone hates us and wants to kill us" speech anymore either, as long as the US stands with them no one every stood a chance in really beating them.
There are extremists in Israel too, and Israel has nuclear devices as well. But then again our Israeli allies would never hurt use us for gain now would then.... Not compared with how badly Iran has used us in the past...
I will end on that note, I feel I am having the effect of ranting.. My apologies.
This post has been edited... ( I will usualy read back through my post's the next day, when my eyes are better. If you see many spelling mistake's you dont need to point them out, in due time I will attempt to fix.)
On with the topic now
Thank you all for your patience with me.