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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
NYC has had gun control since 1911. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will.
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What I mean to say is that there are no places in the US that are gun crime free. Anyone involved in matters of guns has to know that, including NYC officials. Nothing works completly, so they pick a side and stick with it. I don't agree with it, but I can understand why they'd do it. They're frustrated.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
First off, change the way gun crimes are dealt with. No more plea bargains. You do a gun crime, you do the maximum. That means if nobody is killed during the comission, then you serve life without parole. If someone is killed during the comission, lethal injection. (I know you don't agree with the death penalty, but you can't escape the benefit of permanently removing a violent murderer.)
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Fair enough about the plea bargins. I agree. As for leathal injection, why not beat the snot out of them instead? The death penalty obviously isn't an effctive deterrant (which has nothing to do with my personal feelings about the death penalty). Why not have these people put into a room and have them cained daily 4-5 hours at a time for several weeks? Prisons may be dangerous, but it's usually dangerous from other inmates. If a professional (someone who has been screened by a decent psych profile and background check) can simply beat the tar out of someone for using a gun, they'll think twice when they get out. For repeat offenders, castration is an option. I know it's cruel, but so is shooting someone.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Second, NYC HAS to go 'shall-issue'. This 'may issue' crap is whats getting innocent people killed, they aren't allowed to carry because only the rich and famous get to carry there.
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Agree to disagree.
