Lebell's scenario is similar to what my dad, step-mom and I used on my baby sister (15 year difference, she respects me as an authority figure, as well as a sister). However, it got to a point where we would say sorry enough times, and she would say "No you're not," and we'd have to come up with reasons that we were sorry. Her BS meter was probably going off every time we explained.
Also, with regards to manners and saying "Please" and "Thank You," I had to remind my parents to use that with my baby sister, as my dad had been out of the game for so long, and my step-mom had never had kids. They'd ask her do to something, but wouldn't set a good example by saying please. I know they shouldn't HAVE to say please, that she should just do it because they're her parents, but for the purpose of setting a good example, they needed to be a role model.
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