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Old 05-12-2006, 09:50 PM   #97 (permalink)
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....The other more likely avenue for change is civil protest, and sometimes civil disobedience. Don't you find it remarkable the amount of press a few anti-war grandmothers have had? There is a sea change occuring now that should be obvious to most. The abuses of this administration are being condemned by conservatives and progressives alike, which gives "we the people" more power than has existed in our current one party system. Both sides will be scrambling for every vote, and lets make them earn each one.

Dk, "we the people" have the opportunity to exercise our power within the law. I advocate that approach and I hope you will agree after considering our history.
Elphaba, I wanna believe, but these are just the links to May 12 news reports of the Diebold & Sequoia E-Voting equipment sham:
<div class="list"><li>NAtional: Diebold - Voting machine security flaws uncovered <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=3025" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>NAtional: Diebold - Diebold voting systems critically flawed <a href="http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11391" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>NAtional: Diebold - New Fears of Security Risks in Electronic Voting Systems <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/12/us/12vote.html?_r=1&oref=slogin" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>NAtional: Diebold - Reversing Course on Electronic Voting <a href="http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB114739688261250925-q5rh2ocioxu6mgjmS6bZPCZL0HY_20060610.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>NAtional: Diebold - Wall Street Journal Covers E-Voting Train Wreck <a href="http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002816.htm" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>NAtional: Diebold – NY Times on New Diebold Touch-Screen Security Disaster! <a href="http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002817.htm" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>NAtional: Diebold - States Beef Up E-Voting Security After Report on Weaknesses <a href="http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/8ORCZwsBUtfng4/States-Beef-Up-E-Voting-Security-After-Report-on-Weaknesses.xhtml" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>NAtional: Diebold - On Electronic Voting: We Were Always Right, They Were Always Wrong... <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brad-friedman/on-electronic-voting-we-_b_20890.html" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>MD: Diebold - Experts see new Diebold flaw. They call it worst security glitch to date in state's voting machines and a 'big deal' <a href="http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-md.voting12may12,0,618610.story?coll=bal-local-headlines" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>MD: Diebold - Experts Warn of New Security Flaw in Voting Machines <a href="http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=25&sid=789288" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>UT: Diebold - Hacker's Report Claims Vote Outcomes At-Risk <a href="http://www.kcpw.org/article/649" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>AR: Baxter and Marion Counties - Train Wreck - Election officials are still holding out hope for touchscreen voting (ES&S) <a href="http://www.baxterbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060512/NEWS01/605120321/1002" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>FL: Train Wreck - DIEBOLD DISASTERS CONTINUE: Company Ships Uncertified Machines, Software to 5 Florida Counties! <a href="http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002821.htm" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>FL: Train Wreck - Touch-screen voting devices not certified (Diebold TSx) <a href="http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Local/newEAST01POLL1051206.htm" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>FL: Train Wreck - Five Florida counties get uncertified voting machines <a href="http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/breaking_news/14564485.htm" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>NJ: Essex County – Train Wreck - Sequoia and Essex County-The Outrage Continues <a href="http://www.votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1277&Itemid=113" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>TX: Comal County – Train Wreck - Software delay sends Comal voters to paper (ES&S) <a href="http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA051206.05B.e-voting.21495238.html" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>WV: Jefferson County – Train Wreck - Bad ballots created headaches for election officials <a href="http://www.herald-mail.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=137899&format=html" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>CA: Santa Clara County - Paper trail to track June vote (Sequoia) <a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/14559722.htm" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>CO: Denver - Auditor challenges voting machine purchase (Sequoia) <a href="http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/elections/article/0,2808,DRMN_24736_4691505,00.html" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>CO: Denver - City auditor: No deal for voting machines <a href="http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4693390,00.html" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>FL: Palm Beach County - Elections panel recommends use of paper trail <a href="http://www.palmbeachpost.com/politics/content/local_news/epaper/2006/05/12/s3b_elex_0512.html" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>FL: Palm Beach County - County panel recommends paper trail for elections <a href="http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/sfl-pelections12may12,0,4455646.story?coll=sfla-news-palm" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>FL: Volusia County - Volusia still lacks way to verify votes <a href="http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/Opinion/Editorials/opnOPN15051206.htm" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>IL: eSlate watchers California-bound (Hart) <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/west/chi-0605120221may12,1,989809.story?coll=chi-newslocalwest-hed" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>MN: Winona County - Grants, county to cover voting machine costs (AutoMark) <a href="http://www.winonadailynews.com/articles/2006/05/12/news/05voting.txt" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>NY: Dutchess County - Paper ballot use pushed <a href="http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060512/NEWS01/605120328/1006" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>NY: Dutchess County - Group pushes for paper ballots in Dutchess <a href="http://www.midhudsonnews.com/News/DC_votingMach-12May06.htm" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>PA: Counties warned of security glitch in machines (Diebold) <a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06132/689559-85.stm" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>PA: Bucks County - Use of old voting machines may cost Bucks $1 million <a href="http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/states/pennsylvania/counties/philadelphia_county/philadelphia/14558512.htm" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>PA: Lancaster County - County's 550 new voting machines ready for debut (Hart eSlat and eScan) <a href="http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/22658" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>PA: Schuylkill County - Schuylkill voters to put down pencils to cast ballots. County readies for Tuesday's election with electronics not paper. <a href="http://www.mcall.com/news/local/lehighton/all-b1_1machinesmay12,0,1990617.story?coll=all-newslocallehighton-hed" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>TX: Denton County - Voters take to electronic voting <a href="http://www.courier-gazette.com/articles/2006/05/12/little_elm_journal/news/news27.txt" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>TX: Tarrant County - Tarrant merges polling places <a href="http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/local/14562627.htm" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>UT: Some rural areas heading for mail-only voting <a href="http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/178540/4/" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>WV: Opinion - A hit – and a miss <a href="http://www.register-herald.com/opinion/local_story_131230710.html?keyword=topstory" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a></li><br /><br /><li>WV: Editorials: West Virginians have had enough (Voter Fraud) <a href="http://www.dailymail.com/news/Opinion/200605121/" target="_blank"><i>LINK</i></a>
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This is the result of the sham "voting reform act of 2002", HAVA:
Quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_America_Vote_Act
Criticisms

Critics of the bill state it is little more than an effort to help large electronic voting systems vendors such as Diebold Election Systems, Election Systems & Software, and Sequoia Election Systems make millions of dollars throughout the country in selling electronic voting devices encouraged by HAVA. [1][2].....
IMO, the deadline requirements for local purchasing of new E-Vote machines were intended to block competition of "start-ups" who may have responded, given enough time, by designing and manufacturing voting systems that could easily compete with, and wrest contracts from Diebold and Sequoia....

Instead....the following is typical, it will still be the same around the country in November, I fear....and when the polls close, the same thugs who control the federal government today, will control it....exit poll results....be damned!
Quote:
http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/...ws/335912.html
Electronic voting machines off for most early voting
Wednesday, May 3, 2006

By Rob Moritz
Arkansas News Bureau
LITTLE ROCK - Most counties in Arkansas will be using paper ballots when early voting begins next week because of problems with the recently purchased electronic voting machines, Secretary of State Charlie Daniels said Tuesday.

Electronic balloting will be available for early voting in the eight counties that comprise the 2nd Congressional District in central Arkansas because there is a competitive federal party primary on the ballot, Daniels said. <h3>The federal Help America Vote Act requires the machines be available in contested federal races this year.</h3>

Daniels said he was confident that electronic voting machines would be available in all 75 counties by the May 23 primary.

The secretary of state spoke at a news conference Tuesday to address questions being raised about whether Election Systems & Software of Omaha, Neb., would be able to provide electronic voting machines, ballot software and absentee ballots in time for early voting that begins Monday.

At least 14 counties missed a Friday deadline to deliver absentee ballots to their clerks' offices for mailing. Several other counties, including Pulaski, have reported receiving defective software for their new machines.

The Nebraska company was awarded $15 million contract in November to deliver electronic voting machines for state compliance with the federal Help America Vote Act. The federal legislation was passed after the 2000 recount that determined George W. Bush's win over Al Gore in the presidential race.

Under the law, at least one new electronic voting machine was required at each of the polls by the May 23 primary elections in Arkansas.....
Elphaba...how the *uck could the voting machines of both principle manufacturers be so *ucked up in mid-2006. This isn't rocket science. It almost has to be this way, by intent....

If I'm right, what's the back up plan? I've talked about it before.....do some of us pick straws daily....to see whose turn it is to throw themselves under the wheels of Dick Cheney's limo...everytime it leaves his residence or office, until the streets are so caked with blood and guts that he and Bush "get the message"....or select less obvious vehicles to transport themselves in ?

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