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Originally Posted by ustwo
what you need to do as moderators is continue to move those points of view which can not be rationaly discussed to the forum where it belongs and operates on a 'lower' standard of logic.
...what politics has become is slightly better than parinoia.
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though i am new to this forum, in reading through the political threads, something becomes quite apparent- there is a recurring theme to your posts.
you have a
great skill for, indirectly, insulting others or their perspectives/ideologies.
i fail to see how this is constructive, and while i do not think it is
at all right or necessarily justified, it is easy to see why some would be moved to 'personally attack' you (as you stated earlier in this thread)- because that is precisely what
you do (albeit, in a more veiled manner).
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Originally Posted by ustwo
...Often I don't see it unless someone else who is worth reading quotes one of the posters involved.
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when you, repeatedly, display such a, blatantly, exclusive and judgemental attitude, i don't see how you can really expect to have a productive discussion with anyone but the mirror or others who have a very similar or exact point of view.
it is really not my intention to be harsh or overly critical of you... it is just an objective observation from someone who is not involved.
i enjoy posts by people with a view that opposes my own, because it allows me to see the thinking behind their persective, when i previously may have not been able to fathom why someone would take that particular stance.
i agree that when insults and labels come into the mix, it often drowns out the actual points that were included in the post.
i think you (ustwo) could get opinions/points across much more effectively if you just went about it in slightly more open-minded and gentle way.
i very much agree with elphaba that the divisive nature of these threads is a reflection of the current political climate.
to a lesser degree, it is also just the nature of politics, in general. when people feel strongly about any given matter, discussion is bound to get somewhat heated.
but if you have valid points to support your perspective, then there is no need for demeaning the other's point of view (in an attempt to make yours
appear superior).
i have, mostly, been impressed with the candor, respect, and rational tone of the people who discuss/debate in politics.
as many have stated, the discussions here are far more productive and civil than virtually all other political boards on the net.
of course, there is room for improvement, but realization of everyone's individual and collective potential for evolution/improvement seems to be the purpose of this site
i think this particualr thread is, effectively, doing that.