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Originally Posted by willravel
This theory does not support symetrical collapse.
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Where you see a symmetrical collapse, I see the middle and or rear going first, watch the video again, better yet watch this one, it’s a bit clearer
http://www.911research.com/wtc/evide..._collapse2.mpg
Just before it starts, watch in the top right part of the building, how the extra parts drop faster then the rest, this is showing that it was not symmetrical; the center fell first, most likely because of the diesel fire in the basement causing weakness in the structure, coupled with the impact from wtc 1. Secondly you can see the building twist, the left side comes forward a bit and the right goes back a bit. This is because the center lost its integrity first, and the outside had to support the additional weight of the building, it could not so it to failed, causing the twist. Charges would not cause the building to twist like that. Moreover if there were charges on several levels, those levels would have collapsed first, instead of just the bottom, we would see the windows break on the level that the explosives are on, not because of the explosives, but because the floor that the explosives are on would collapse first, causing the floor to drop and the windows to rupture, we don’t see this, we only see the tower disappear from sight, hence the bottom gave first.
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Originally Posted by willravel
If one or a few columns had failed, one might expect a portion of the building to crumble while leaving much of the building standing.
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Well look at it this way, the damage was not terrible, it knocked out a few of the beams, but not enough to bring it down, but it did increase the load on the rest of the beams, almost to there failure point, then the fire heated the beams weakening them enough to cause a full collapse, now in several interviews people site hearing explosions, this could be mistaken for the sound of the building collapsing, or it could be the tanks of diesel rupturing, if some of the tanks survived the initial fire, they could have heated, vaporized, ruptured and cause a massive explosion in the basement, causing the final collapse.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Sunder lied.
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And although I’m not fully sure, I think with the firefighting, there were firefighters there for a bit, but gave up after finding it either hopeless or not worth risking there lives for an empty building, after seeing two others collapse. I think the first response people are not considered a firefighting effort, I don’t think he was lying, but I do see how you may, think of it this way, there were firefighters there, but they were not fighting the fire in full force, they were assessing the fire and the building if they would fight or not.