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Uber an insane man is convinced of his own sanity and can try to explain why what he feels is sane in light of all evidence to the contrary.
That is what these discussions are pure and simple. Being civil has nothing to do with it, its insanity.
The closest analogy I can find to this argument is a holocaust denial debate. You have people who give you untrue, unproven, and unsound 'facts' to prove their point and ignore all evidence to the contrary. Pay no attention to the 1000's of eye witnesses or the piles of bodies, but instead rely on a minority of dissenters, and bad science. No matter how 'civil' the debate it has no place here and would have been moved in the past. You can have a civil debate about sex, it goes in the sexuality board, you can have a civil debate about your own paranoid government conspiracy delusions, and it goes in the paranoia forum where we can ignore it.
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Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host
Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.
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