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Originally Posted by stevo
hey mods. have we had enough yet? ... whats the difference from what this thread has become and the 911 threads in the paranoia forum? To keep this thread in the politics forum is a disgrace. I thought we were trying to clean up Politics. This is only a step backward.
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I'm not angry, I just think its disgusting. "contributing" only gives legitimacy to the paranoia.
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Originally Posted by ustwo
As 'they' say, "Hear, hear!"
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Stevo, and ustwo - your opinions are noted. However, the thread stays for now.
I'm not saying this to exclude you, but I'll note that host and willravel (the primary motivaters of this thread) are still attempting to address issues of possible evidence and facts - which are being rationally and politely raised by Dilbert and The_Jazz. A discussion about evidence and whether the commonly assumed story is even possible are perfectly fine for this space. From what I can tell, your recent attempts to counter that possibly productive discussion by trying to tempt it into conspiracy theories, motivations and shadowy plots amount to attempted threadjacking. Repeated attempts to derail the discussion and discredit the posters by marginalizing them as paranoid or crazy have been noted and don't do anyone any good - because will and host have declined to go down that path. At this point, if you hate this discussion so much, please hit the back button.
I strongly disagree that this thread demeans our politics forum. That isn't related to my personal feelings about one side or the other - and that's part of why I'm mostly staying out of this. In fact, in some places this thread has been exemplary for the restraint and topical focus that people have shown. Perhaps you and I simply have different ideas about what this forum should be. If that is the case, please take this up over PM - the moderating and administrating team is open to input and will discuss your ideas.
I think this thread is fine here, and will probably end when people stop posting. There's no reason to lock it or move it, and considering how calm and rational the primary discussers are attempting to remain I don't think there will be. I'm waiting with interest for Dilbert's thoughts on tower 7, will's information from structural experts, and host's photographic documentation.
boatin said a few things very well:
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Originally Posted by boatin
And if it grew to 10 pages of calm conversation, where is the harm? The category that this is in seem pretty trivial. Ultimately, why does it matter?
And how can it matter more than disrespect and snideness to another member of TFP?
What is obvious to you, and others, may not be obvious to everyone. Where's the harm?
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On TFP, we should always respect others, yes. This is should not be a challenging concept.
As others have said: if you don't like the topic, move along. Also not a challenging concept.
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