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Mojo_PeiPei · 05-09-2006, 10:25 PM

I still cannot fathom how any even comes close to siding with Iran on this one. It is fact that inspite of much evidence there is no "smoking gun" proof of nukes, they have grossly violated several aspects of the treaty, had extremely shady dealings with extremely shady people, and have gone out of there way to hide it. At the sametime there is overwhelming evidence which points to the notion of them pursuing nuclear weapons, but a little lip service is enough to sway some people it seems. What part of anything Iran has done surrounding their weapons program, or anything else whether it is hardline anti-west/anti-american rhetoric, support of terrorism, gross violations of human rights, screams "we are trustworthy" for them?

And what is the big deal about Israel having nukes? They are not party to the NPT, Iran is, North KOrea is. There is 0% chance in hell Israel would ever use nukes aggressively, they by and large a reactive country except for in a few instances such as the 3-day war (but historical Arab military aggression prompted that reaction). They are a deterrent for Israel, a country who has been at war 5 times in the last 60 years, its nice to have a step up when you are constantly the target of aggression by foreign nations. And btw please don't paint Israel and America as against all Arabs. The Arab countries have historically been stupid, blinded by their hatred of Israel they refuse to make peace, countries like Egypt, the country with the 2 highest amount of foreign aid behind Israel, and Jordan have great relations with the US, or at least their governments do to that extent, and guess what? It came from making peace with them.

Will your idealism is a disturbing notion as it pertains to this thread, agreed nobody should have nukes, but people do. Your plan of action is all to strikingly similar to that of Chamberlin when he didn't feel like standing up to Germany when they were going buck wild and firing up their war machine. History showed the follie of that one...

05-09-2006, 10:25 PM	#80 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	I still cannot fathom how any even comes close to siding with Iran on this one. It is fact that inspite of much evidence there is no "smoking gun" proof of nukes, they have grossly violated several aspects of the treaty, had extremely shady dealings with extremely shady people, and have gone out of there way to hide it. At the sametime there is overwhelming evidence which points to the notion of them pursuing nuclear weapons, but a little lip service is enough to sway some people it seems. What part of anything Iran has done surrounding their weapons program, or anything else whether it is hardline anti-west/anti-american rhetoric, support of terrorism, gross violations of human rights, screams "we are trustworthy" for them? And what is the big deal about Israel having nukes? They are not party to the NPT, Iran is, North KOrea is. There is 0% chance in hell Israel would ever use nukes aggressively, they by and large a reactive country except for in a few instances such as the 3-day war (but historical Arab military aggression prompted that reaction). They are a deterrent for Israel, a country who has been at war 5 times in the last 60 years, its nice to have a step up when you are constantly the target of aggression by foreign nations. And btw please don't paint Israel and America as against all Arabs. The Arab countries have historically been stupid, blinded by their hatred of Israel they refuse to make peace, countries like Egypt, the country with the 2 highest amount of foreign aid behind Israel, and Jordan have great relations with the US, or at least their governments do to that extent, and guess what? It came from making peace with them. Will your idealism is a disturbing notion as it pertains to this thread, agreed nobody should have nukes, but people do. Your plan of action is all to strikingly similar to that of Chamberlin when he didn't feel like standing up to Germany when they were going buck wild and firing up their war machine. History showed the follie of that one... __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.