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Old 05-08-2006, 10:31 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Dilbert, the "arrogance" I was referring to was this quote that you posted that actually, as I said, reinforces my opinion....

The quote was linked to a post on letsroll.org ....it ended with:
Quote:
That's 'THE END' of my dealing with these JERKS with their BOEING 737 claims!

- tocarm
You certainly have no reason to defend against a criticism that your tone was arrogant.....it has never been, IMO.

I found this...it took a lot of searching. This should be about finding the actual facts....not about how accurate any of our opinions are. In that spirit, if the nytimes was correct, I am wrong about the landfill picture, and you, Dilbert, are right!

Near the bottom of this nytimes article, there is this:
(I subscribe to newsbank...and I read the whole article....)
Quote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/21/nyregion/21BELO.html
http://eric.stamen.com/2001/10/great...ut-effort.html
A NATION CHALLENGED: THE LANDFILL
At Landfill, Tons of Debris, Slivers of Solace
New York Times, The (NY)
October 21, 2001
Author: DAN BARRY and AMY WALDMAN

........Inspector Luongo said that originally he had hoped almost to recreate Lower Manhattan on the landfill -- to coordinate the piles of debris in exact relation to downtown streets. But, he said, "I defy anyone to tell me where everything came from."

And so he has sought to bring order to the chaos. Along the perimeter are rows of crushed police cars and fire engines, stacked on top of one another. A separate field has been created for the remains of 7 World Trade Center, which once housed regional offices of several federal agencies, including the Secret Service. In the dirt lay a pink-and-black chunk of its marbled facade.

But there is also randomness to the order. <b>Over here, the engine from American Airlines Flight 11, the jetliner that crashed into the World Trade Center's north tower.</b> Over there, the oversized concrete planters that were installed as a security measure after the trade center was bombed in 1993. And there, a fire hose, unraveled........

.......Photos:.......GRIM REMINDERS -- A crushed police car, part of an engine from American Airlines Flight 11, and girders twisted in the collapse. (Photographs by FRED R. CONRAD/The New York Times)(pg. B11).....
This "find" of a Flight 11 engine was never publicized widely; no mention by FEMA....

The Smithsonian had an exhibit that included recovered aircraft wreckage....no mention of an engine from WTC:
http://americanhistory.si.edu/septem...cord.asp?ID=45

Freaky things do happen, and plane crashes are no exceptions.
Claims that two passports or visas of hijackers of flight 93, and one from a WTC plane hijacker were recovered, post crash, just seems beyond "freaky" to me. The flight 93 "debris field" is the last place that I would expect that two hijackers' passports would be found.

The prosecutors emphasis on evidence exhibits from flight 93, and the CVR audio during the Moussouai trial penalty phase is also "odd", to me.

Please provide examples of my "late" edits of my past posts. The only things that I can think of are the pictures that I posted last week, on a post early in this thread. All edits are time/date stamped here at TFP. I did not edit that post, the problem is there is with the "free web space" provider....not with any edit I performed.....
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