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Unfortunately, Knife -- people who propose ID are either don't care about what real science is, or they are too stupid to understand what real science is. Neither of those audiences will ever be swayed by yours or mine or anyone's pleas for them to think logically for one damn minute.
You're simultaneously preaching to the choir and falling on dead ears.
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