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Old 05-03-2006, 09:03 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
I think what you're missing here is that as that heat spreads out, it's hot enough to ignite things around it, which will then burn adding to the intensity of both the fire and the heat. The center of this rapidly spreading fire is going to burn more intensely than the outside portions.
I am well aware that the jet fuel was not the only thing burning. I fully expect everything from carpet to desks to paper burned in the fire. What I don't expect is that structural problems in the middle of the building + heat = top floor of the building collapses first, as it did in the North Tower. I can understand the structural integrity loss argument more in the South Tower, but the North Tower, judging by the videos of it calling, obviously didn't fall because of a gaping hole. How is it possible that despite the fact that the hottest part of the building was at the level impact point, the first floor that gave was way up on top? I know that heat rises and heat travels through a steel structure, but is it really possible that the steel on the top floor gave before the steel that was on the same floor as the fire?
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
are you saying that ALL of this jet fuel flashburned and then dissipated because there was nothing left?
If you read the quote from my post that you quoted, I specifically said "...a great deal of the fuel from each plane was instantly burned upon impact..." A great deal is not the same as all. A great deal is the esult of the fuel tanks being breeched, shooting tons of fuel into the air and even out the other side of the building. Much of the fuel, though no one can say how much, burned up instantly.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
again, wind conditions. now, i'm not versed on the details of what the weather and wind direction was that day, but I can tell you that if the wind was in the right direction, it could account for the time differences.
I'll look into wind conditions asap. I apologize for not having the information ahndy (the burden of proof is obviously on me in this thread, and I have no problem with that).
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Originally Posted by Poppinjay
Additionally, the south tower was right next to the north tower and suffered tangental damage from the first plane.
Oh? I'm not familiar with the extent or effect of any damage that the South Tower took from the North Tower strike.

Here are the images I tried to link above:

South Tower


North Tower


Bird's Eye View of WTC, including crash directions and location and sizes of the cores.



Edit: Another huge thanks to everyone both for keeping an open mind and also for remaining not just civil but even pleasant.
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