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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
Will, I'm enjoying this thread so far, and I hope that we can keep the discussion limited to accepted facts and observed results of the attack. But that's me, and obviously host and Ustwo disagree with me, which is fine.
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Much appreciated!
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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
Other than to blow sunshine up your ass, my point is to ask what you think of my previous post of a plausible explanation for the higher temperature that would occur. It seems pretty clear to me that the fire could have easily burned hotter than the 210 C ingition point of the jet fuel given I can set a house on fire using the same mix of jet fuel and achieve 1100 F ON AVERAGE. Since steel loses riditity at the same 1100 degrees, we'd clearly need a higher temperature than produced in an average house fire to reach the critical point in 47 minutes, but I don't see where that's an unacheiveable task given that there were fire resistant materials known to be burning at the time. Given the collapse of the structure, all that was needed
was for the focal point of the fire to be in a critical area.
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Okay so you're saying it's possible for the fire to have burned at 1100 degrees F, or 533 C, and thus would have caused the steel to lose it's rigidity to the point where it was no longer able to stand. This caused a chain reaction which brought floor on top of floor and levelled the building. The problem, at least in my mind, is that when you heat a stel sturcture the heat moves out, and thus dissapates, acros the entire structure. Imagine pouring applesauce onto a plate. The applesauce doesn't just stack up, it spreads across the flat surface. What surprises me is the fact that a fire in the North Tower, spread through 200,000 (est) tons of steel enough in 104 minutes to cause a structural collapse. In addition to this, a great deal of the fuel from each plane was instantly burned upon impact (thus the explosions in the pictures and video). Leaving the North Tower alone for a bit, South Tower went down in only 47 minutes! Just so you know, the South Tower did not recieve a duirect impact, as the North Tower did. The plane that hit the South Tower hit it at an angle, and most of the fuel burst outside of the building. How did the building with the least fuel fall twice as fast?
Seaver, if this isn't worth your time, why are you posting?