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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
...But again, if you're committing a crime, you have no right to privacy. As it stands, all other citizens ARE considered law abiding and our activities DO remain private UNTIL there is a warrant (and therefore a good legal reason)...
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Isn't this the whole crux of this Amendment? If you haven't been convicted, you are presumed innocent. If you are innocent, you have a right to privacy that can (theoretically) only be circumvented through proscribed legal procedures. You shouldn't be subjected to searches and examination of information that you're not submitting to the government.
And you're exactly right - this is where the NSA wiretapping thing gets interesting. From reports I've seen, they were definitely capturing domestic communications, even if by accident.
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Originally Posted by flstf
I think we just have a little difference in our opinion of what our expectations of privacy should be. I am of the opinion that monitored and recorded activity is not really private even if they never get a warrant to access it.
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I think I agree with you flstf, if I understand what you are saying. If the government is requiring providers to record activity in case of the event of a warrent, then the government might as well be recording the information itself.