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Old 05-01-2006, 11:16 AM   #29 (permalink)
The_Jazz
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Originally Posted by Carno
Who the fuck said anything about denying them their right to do that? I just said they'd be in for an ass beating. And where exactly did I presuppose that those kids aren't US citizens?

They haven't earned shit. They have those rights because they were born into them. They have been given those rights, but they have not fucking earned them. Those kids can spend some time in the military or in public service, and then they will have earned something. Until then, they should be more respectful to those who fought and died for that flag.
So someone who hasn't served doesn't deserve rights? How about if they spend time helping the homeless (public service)? How about if they lost a father or a brother in action? Can you tell me exactly how an American citizen earns rights?

As far as who mentioned denying their rights, I think that was you when you mentioned "beating their asses". Beating a black man because he would dare exercise his right to vote is denying him his right. Just because you aren't acting as a government agent doesn't mean that you're denying the right to make the statement.

Look, I don't like flag burning or hanging the flag upside down, but I also think that soldiers die for more than a scrap of cloth. They die for the ideas that that scrap represents, and one of those ideas happens to be free speach, which is an inalienable right regardless of whatever your notion who has "earned" that right or not. I fully support your right to be pissed off up to the point that you start "beating ass" - that's when I support the guys beating your ass.
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