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Old 04-30-2006, 02:13 PM   #115 (permalink)
shakran
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
those very framers and founders said that we all were the militia and they all said that every freeman has the right to arms. thats pretty clear to me that it's an individual right, not only for militia causes.
In a time when everyone WAS part of the militia, and when people knew how to use the guns that were out there. Very different story from today.

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then please explain to us how militia means 'national guard' when the national guard wasn't created until the very early 1900s.
The national guard is what the militia(s) became. Kind of like the Department of Defense still does the same thing even though it's no longer called the War Department.


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well regulated means well organized, well disciplined
Then explain to me why you seem to think that people with no training and who never used a gun before are part of a well organized group?

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there are two parts to the amendment and they differentiate the need for a well regulated militia does not take away the right of the people to bear arms. at least thats my interpretation of it anyway.
It's ONE sentence. The framers were not all grammar morons. One sentence, one subject. It's one part. Not two. And the one part says that you can have all the guns you want, but they're meant for a *well regulated militia*. NOT a bunch of yahoos that don't know the first thing about firearm safety.
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