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Originally Posted by filtherton
You kind've just answered it for me. It's okay to kill a fetus because it isn't a viable human being yet. An infant generally is a viable human being.
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Why does viability matter?
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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
a) if you are going to be prohibiting something, the onus is on you to justify the prohibition. you have to justify why a group of cells should have rights over the body of woman. why the incubated should have rights over the incubator. you have to justify turning a living, breathing, independent woman into a forced incubator.
b) so? so why should a non-viable group of undeveloped cells take precedence over a woman?
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A) Nature is what forced the woman to be an incubator. She's simply not allowed - shouldn't be allowed - to escape incubation by means of killing a human being. That isn't a sufficient justification. It's not a good thing that the mother would be forced to incubate. But it's the lesser of the two evils.
B) A non-viable group of undeveloped cells - a human being - should have no precedence over the mother. But its right to life should have precedence over the right to an unoccupied womb. You don't have that latter right without the right to life.
When it's right to life against right to life, the mother wins out. When your life is threatened, even unintentionally, you have every right to take every necessary measure in response to save your life.
No matter how many times I get into an abortion debate, that tired strawmen always seem to show up: "why is the z/e/f more important?" No one's arguing that. Give it up.